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Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by smallstepforman »

slavik81 wrote: post #30
filleduchaos wrote: post #20

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...I mean no offence with this, but I believe it's rather easy to look up the status of a literally official Apple product/project like Boot Camp? https://support.apple.com/boot-camp

That gets you Windows and OSX, but it's really easy to break the Windows partition when you install Linux. To triple-boot, you start with OSX, then install Windows via Boot Camp, then resize the Windows partition to make some empty space after it for your Linux install. Then you install refind, and follow up with installing Linux. You need to do it that way because Boot Camp won't let you leave any empty space on the…

I used to triple boot OSX, Windows and Haiku, but a windows update borked Win10 boot manager. The Win recovery tool doesn’t allow you to mount an EFI boot partition to bless the Win partition since heaven forbid a user may damage the boot manager (which is the entire point of running the recovery tool). The (re)install USB stick didnt like the partition table and refused to reinstall Win10. Now I triple boot with a Linux flavour of the month. Suprisingly, Haiku gets the most uptime on the MacBook Pro.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by cerberusss »

insideBig3 wrote: post #44
Sangeppato wrote: post #38

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Yeah I don't get it either. Without macOS, a MacBook doesn't make any sense IMHO

This is why I can't understand the appeal of a MacBook. You have the Apple burden, the Apple costs, what benefits? The touchpad? The showoff luxury of a lighted logo?

Well, it's very good hardware, very stable software (in my experience), and you can drop to a terminal.

It's excessively expensive though. It's a business expense for me, but otherwise I would've bought one of those laptops that come with Linux pre-installed.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by gorgoiler »

heelix wrote: post #65
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What’s superior with VMWare? I’m a virtual box user (via vagrant) but would switch for a compelling feature set. Performance, IPv6?

The snapshot options are much better in fusion, for that solo workflow, then stock virtualbox. I suspect vagrant covers those gaps. Long running (and pausing) VMs behave better on fusion. I see better stability when pushed hard. Better use of the hardware. Been a long time since I ran benchmarks, but the same VM was about 4-10 seconds faster on a 2 minute process. Not enough to matter for most. The native disk access…

Thanks for the write up.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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steeleduncan wrote: post #21
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Do the latest Macs still support running Windows via Boot Camp? What would you recommend if I need to run both Linux and Windows alongside MacOS? Virtualisation? Or would I be better off using more than one machine?

It depends exactly what you want linux for, but if it is command line stuff, then Windows Subsystem for Linux is ok. WSL is just a linux syscall wrapper around the Windows kernel, so it isn't a perfect replica, but WSL2 runs a customised linux kernel alongside windows, so it should very close.

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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by quantummkv »

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For me, it's mostly the screen and trackpad. Non-apple screens come in two varieties - 1. Shitty 1080p TN or barely IPS panels with laughable color accuracy, horribly bad color reproduction, viewing angles that just plain suck, 300 or 250 nits brightness and no 100% coverage of even sRGB. 2. Completely overkill and expensive 4K panels with HDR, touch, OLED, all the bell and whistles that somehow forgot that they are…

Do you get these advantages with Linux instead of macOS?

The screen will still be the same regardless of the OS. It's advantages would not change.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

steeleduncan wrote: post #21
pansa2 wrote: post #13

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Do the latest Macs still support running Windows via Boot Camp? What would you recommend if I need to run both Linux and Windows alongside MacOS? Virtualisation? Or would I be better off using more than one machine?

It depends exactly what you want linux for, but if it is command line stuff, then Windows Subsystem for Linux is ok. WSL is just a linux syscall wrapper around the Windows kernel, so it isn't a perfect replica, but WSL2 runs a customised linux kernel alongside windows, so it should very close.

I just use Linux for the games.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by ngrilly »

heelix wrote: post #35
Narann wrote: post #15

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Honest question: Having Linux on a Mac a decade ago had sense has Mac hardwares were special enough to provide value, but now you have XPS-like hardware, why would people buy a Mac to install a Linux on it? Dual boot? What does Mac hardware have that others don't?

The screen and the track pad are the best out there. From a coding perspective, the Mac is one of the few 16:10 ratio screens still out there, which means you get a bit more vertical height than 99% of the other 16:9 ratio resolutions. While 16:9 makes for better movie watching, coding/surfing/etc is far better on the taller screen. As a bonus, it is a really quality screen too. I'm less enamored with the rest. My da…

Looks like the new XPS 13 has a 16:10 ratio screen :)

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by 0xff00ffee »

veidr wrote: post #43
pansa2 wrote: post #13

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Do the latest Macs still support running Windows via Boot Camp? What would you recommend if I need to run both Linux and Windows alongside MacOS? Virtualisation? Or would I be better off using more than one machine?

Yes, absolutely virtualization works so much better. In fact you can boot Mac and run VMWare Fusion, or boot into Windows 10 and use either Windows Subsystem for Linux or VMWare Workstation, and you will have a pretty great experience with Linux. OTOH if you try to install Linux on any recent MacBook Pro, you are in for hours and hours of googling weird shit with like only 2 comments on forums you have never heard of…

I run multiple OSes as part of my job.

The small investment in VMWare Fusion was worth it but I still need some dedicated machines.

I just have a few issues:

Problem #1: Disk space requirements. I have a late 2013 MBP and windows gobbles up a min 60GB for the image, which is 1/4th my SDD. This is why I ended up buying cheap beige boxes for every other OS (or AWS).

Problem #2: Clipboard on VMWare is a trainwreck. Same goes for VNC and Microsoft Remote Desktop which I also use. My workaround is to use a text file on my router's USB drive so that I cut and paste through that in each OS.

----> I would pay someone $1,000 to come to my house and fix my clipboard problems.

Problem #3a: The magic mouse blows chunks on anything but macOS. And even running Excel on macOS is impossible with a magic mouse. The left-right slop makes it difficult to scroll vertically without drifting diagonally... I don't know how macOS apps solve that.

Problem #3b: I would kill for a mouse with a real middle button, not a scroll+button. Unix/X middle click paste is a feature I sorely miss on macOS and Windows.

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