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Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by colmvp »

fcanesin wrote: post #7

Buy a XPS-13 developer edition.

I tried the 13' laptop but after getting used to the extra space around arrow keys on Macbook's for a decade, the tight configuration of keys on the 13 which have PGUP/PGDOWN adjacent to the up/left/right keys ended up annoying the shit out of me.

I ended up going with a 15' XPS and installing Ubuntu. The annoying part was the wifi card which sometimes Ubuntu would stop finding, so I'd have to re-install the drivers. For simplicity sake, I didn't bother having hybrid graphics since the only time I really needed the video card was simulations or computer gaming (which I did with booting in Windows).

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by ressetera »

ohwel2l wrote: post #49

Somewhat unrelated but do we still need Docker Desktop for Mac to run Docker containers on macOS? Why is that, is it because Linux is needed? Couldn't Docker run containers natively using just macOS?

I don't have a clear image of how Docker behaves on Mac, but I had wasted a whole day trying to make it work on Windows WSL.

I'd suggest you virtualize a normal Linux host on your machine (under VMware for example) and run Docker there.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by Tsarbomb »

ohwel2l wrote: post #49

Somewhat unrelated but do we still need Docker Desktop for Mac to run Docker containers on macOS? Why is that, is it because Linux is needed? Couldn't Docker run containers natively using just macOS?

The capabilities of Docker and similar technologies all stem from LXC which depends on the capabilities of the Linux kernel.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by insideBig3 »

dijit wrote: post #24
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They used to have a shiny Apple logo on the lid, but now they have only black logo. Still, you won't find one on non-mac hardware.

This idea that anyone who buys Apple products is a sheep buying it purely for the brand needs to die. It doesn’t lend itself to a conversation about why people might choose differently to you. Ignorance is not helping either side.

I highly recommend taking a marketing class.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by abrowne »

aruggirello wrote: post #26
Narann wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Having Linux on a Mac a decade ago had sense has Mac hardwares were special enough to provide value, but now you have XPS-like hardware, why would people buy a Mac to install a Linux on it? Dual boot? What does Mac hardware have that others don't?

IIRC owning a Mac is also one of the few cases (the only one?), when you're legally entitled to run macOS in a VM.

But also legally only under a MacOS host IIRC

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by petepete »

cmurphycode wrote: post #40
fcanesin wrote: post #7

Buy a XPS-13 developer edition.

I'm on the hunt for my next laptop and I'd really like to have a rock solid portable that runs Linux, but my past experience with Dell indicates inferior hardware and construction to Mac. I looked at the 2020 Macbook Air (the $~1300 model), and it seems to offer the same or better specs (depending how much you value the display) for the price. Are we at the point where we must pay a premium NOT to run OSX, or am I mi…

Lenovo announced yesterday that Thinkpads pre-loaded with Fedora are on their way. Their X1 Carbon line already work extremely well with Linux.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by thedevelopnik »

cmurphycode wrote: post #40
fcanesin wrote: post #7

Buy a XPS-13 developer edition.

I'm on the hunt for my next laptop and I'd really like to have a rock solid portable that runs Linux, but my past experience with Dell indicates inferior hardware and construction to Mac. I looked at the 2020 Macbook Air (the $~1300 model), and it seems to offer the same or better specs (depending how much you value the display) for the price. Are we at the point where we must pay a premium NOT to run OSX, or am I mi…

https://www.system76.com

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by scarface74 »

insideBig3 wrote: post #44
Sangeppato wrote: post #38

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Yeah I don't get it either. Without macOS, a MacBook doesn't make any sense IMHO

This is why I can't understand the appeal of a MacBook. You have the Apple burden, the Apple costs, what benefits? The touchpad? The showoff luxury of a lighted logo?

I can’t either and besides the Mac, I’m fully onboard with the Apple ecosystem - iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods Pro, and an AppleTV 4K.

I bought Macs way back in the day - my last one was a 2006 Mac Mini to use as an HTPC. But every time I get ready to buy a computer, Macs don’t seem to have any advantage. I would be installing the same software I use for Windows - Chrome, Visual Studio Code and various language runtimes, Visual Studio (or Rider), a bit torrent client, Plex, etc.

I can buy a Dell a lot cheaper - of course from the MS store to avoid all of the crapware - and have more options.

I still recommend Macs for other people though who have the budget. They are still slightly less of a hassle than Windows and they can go to an Apple Store if they have any issues.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by fomine3 »

quantummkv wrote: post #22
Narann wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Having Linux on a Mac a decade ago had sense has Mac hardwares were special enough to provide value, but now you have XPS-like hardware, why would people buy a Mac to install a Linux on it? Dual boot? What does Mac hardware have that others don't?

For me, it's mostly the screen and trackpad. Non-apple screens come in two varieties - 1. Shitty 1080p TN or barely IPS panels with laughable color accuracy, horribly bad color reproduction, viewing angles that just plain suck, 300 or 250 nits brightness and no 100% coverage of even sRGB. 2. Completely overkill and expensive 4K panels with HDR, touch, OLED, all the bell and whistles that somehow forgot that they are…

Do you get these advantages with Linux instead of macOS?
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