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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by heelix » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:22 PM UTC

pansa2 wrote: post #13

Dunedan wrote: post #6

I used MacBooks with Linux starting in 2006 till the end of last year. That's when I finally gave up. I really love the hardware Apple produces, but we're at a point where I believe it's not feasible anymore to use Linux on MacBooks. For the MacBook Pros 2016 and up I put significant effort into trying to get mainline Linux running as smoothly as possible by documenting and coordinating the efforts to have drivers fo…

Do the latest Macs still support running Windows via Boot Camp? What would you recommend if I need to run both Linux and Windows alongside MacOS? Virtualisation? Or would I be better off using more than one machine?

I run VMWare fusion on my Mac for virtualization. Being able to bump the Linux desktop to what the full retina screen can handle is glorious (though I had to fiddle with sizes on the terminal to find something that my eyes could work with). Got a Windows VM for the occasional MSI things that head my way. Nice access to the hardware - disk, cpu, memory - with a lot of snapshot management. I've got both Oracle's VirtualBox and VMWare's product, and VMWare is superior on everything but the price.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by dijit » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:24 PM UTC

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #29

dijit wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This idea that anyone who buys Apple products is a sheep buying it purely for the brand needs to die. It doesn’t lend itself to a conversation about why people might choose differently to you. Ignorance is not helping either side.

What really needs to die are attempts of attributing your own ideas to other people. No one but you was saying anything about sheep buying and that brand is the sole reason for buying Apple products. Disclosure: I own a lot of Apple products, though I still prefer Ubuntu to MacOS.

You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. I don’t believe I misinterpreted that.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by deeblering4 » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:25 PM UTC

2020 - Finally, the year of linux on the desktop.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:31 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #32

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What really needs to die are attempts of attributing your own ideas to other people. No one but you was saying anything about sheep buying and that brand is the sole reason for buying Apple products. Disclosure: I own a lot of Apple products, though I still prefer Ubuntu to MacOS.

You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. I don’t believe I misinterpreted that.

I was just answering the question "What does Mac hardware have that others don't?" in the most direct way possible. Do you disagree that everything else in Mac hardware is matched by other manufacturers?

And your beliefs about what you presume other people imply should probably stay out of this discussion.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by heelix » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:38 PM UTC

Narann wrote: post #15

fcanesin wrote: post #7

Buy a XPS-13 developer edition.

Honest question: Having Linux on a Mac a decade ago had sense has Mac hardwares were special enough to provide value, but now you have XPS-like hardware, why would people buy a Mac to install a Linux on it? Dual boot? What does Mac hardware have that others don't?

The screen and the track pad are the best out there. From a coding perspective, the Mac is one of the few 16:10 ratio screens still out there, which means you get a bit more vertical height than 99% of the other 16:9 ratio resolutions. While 16:9 makes for better movie watching, coding/surfing/etc is far better on the taller screen. As a bonus, it is a really quality screen too.

I'm less enamored with the rest. My daily driver laptop is a 32G i9 from 2018(?). While I have enough RAM to run a couple docker containers, most of the folks I work with are stuck with the 16G version, which are constantly out of resources and have no upgrade plan. For being a 'pro' spec machine, it does not have the cooling it needs to be pushed like I do.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by aguyfromnb » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:39 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #32

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What really needs to die are attempts of attributing your own ideas to other people. No one but you was saying anything about sheep buying and that brand is the sole reason for buying Apple products. Disclosure: I own a lot of Apple products, though I still prefer Ubuntu to MacOS.

You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. I don’t believe I misinterpreted that.

>You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo.

Apple makes kick-ass machines, but I see Macbook Pros everywhere. How many people in the real world need a $2000+ computer? If these people aren't buying it for the logo, what are they buying it for?

Apple has positioned themselves as a lifestyle brand. How can you deny that?

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by Sangeppato » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:42 PM UTC

jimsmart wrote: post #27

Narann wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Having Linux on a Mac a decade ago had sense has Mac hardwares were special enough to provide value, but now you have XPS-like hardware, why would people buy a Mac to install a Linux on it? Dual boot? What does Mac hardware have that others don't?

A lot of folk like the trackpads on the MacBooks. No idea how the XPS ones compare? Another thing is Thunderbolt, but IDK if that’s supported under Linux? So that might be a moot point anyhow.

Macbooks' trackpad are good because of macOS' drivers. On Linux, they suck just as much as any other glass trackpad.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by Sangeppato » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:46 PM UTC

Narann wrote: post #15

fcanesin wrote: post #7

Buy a XPS-13 developer edition.

Honest question: Having Linux on a Mac a decade ago had sense has Mac hardwares were special enough to provide value, but now you have XPS-like hardware, why would people buy a Mac to install a Linux on it? Dual boot? What does Mac hardware have that others don't?

Yeah I don't get it either. Without macOS, a MacBook doesn't make any sense IMHO

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by Sangeppato » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

omarhaneef wrote: post #11

Or go to windows hyper-v manager, and click install Ubuntu image. And you’re done! (Ok, expanding the memory to a decent size is a little more work)

Yes, VMs are a thing, I think we all know that

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by cmurphycode » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 1:50 PM UTC

fcanesin wrote: post #7

Buy a XPS-13 developer edition.

I'm on the hunt for my next laptop and I'd really like to have a rock solid portable that runs Linux, but my past experience with Dell indicates inferior hardware and construction to Mac.

I looked at the 2020 Macbook Air (the $~1300 model), and it seems to offer the same or better specs (depending how much you value the display) for the price. Are we at the point where we must pay a premium NOT to run OSX, or am I missing something? I don't love the direction OSX has headed, but I'm still content enough running it and using Linux remotely where needed.