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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by a_imho »

doublesCs wrote: post #32

For a long time I've been using Lubuntu on my laptop. However, a couple of years ago they changed focus and From wikipedia: Lubuntu was originally touted as being "lighter, less resource hungry and more energy-efficient", but now aims to be "a functional yet modular distribution focused on getting out of the way and letting users use their computer" I stopped updating my OS since (I'm on 14). Does anyone care to sugg…

I'm using Lubuntu 18.04 as a desktop OS without any problem whatsoever, works like a charm.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by readwind »

majewsky wrote: post #116
theelous3 wrote: post #102

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Sounds like something a human wouldn't have any use looking at anyway. Multi gb excel files? This is what programming is for.

> Multi gb excel files? This is what programming is for. Excel is arguably the most successful programming language ever, or at the very very least second most successful after JavaScript. (Note to future commenter: I said "most successful", not "best".)

Yeah excel, outlook, etc, and their db-app, access, word, and photoshop, adobe, etc, will be tough beasts to either man handle or convince, I guess.

Looking forward to handle being a terminal app to install all of those things. Throw us some games too.

No manual entry for handle

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by brtln »

bjoli wrote: post #10
Jonnax wrote: post #9

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I've not used Snap, Flatpack, Appimage and all the other types of app packaging tools before. What are the benefits? Are they effectively like bundling an application with all its dependencies? Is it a way of running "native" apps instead of in a docker container? What should I and shouldn't be using it for?

They claim that it does sandboxing, which to my knowledge was never actually activated in any meaningful way. I have used flatpaks on fedora which was nice, and I also built some which was quite painless. I hate that I can't launch them from the terminal like usual though.

It is possible, flatpak exports shell wrappers for binaries at /var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin and ~/.local/share/flatpak/exports/bin. It uses application ID for security reasons though.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by bluegreyred »

renewiltord wrote: post #121
Tade0 wrote: post #92

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For the life of me I don't get how people always say upgrades are so easy on Ubuntu. They do? I just assume that I have to do a backup of my data, wipe the disk and install they new version. Ubuntu updates never worked for me.

Canonical wisdom is to have separate / and /home so you can wipe system easily. I upgraded by grepping for the packages that were breaking resolution and removing them. But I already know the failure mode so that whole thing took a few minutes. I do have separate mounts for that reason though.

Interesting, is this feasible in everyday life?

I do not use Linux on my desktop or notebook but I would like to do so in the near future. This means I should strive to keep all my user created data within the home directory at all times? How about program preferences and configs that get saved elsewhere by default?

I imagine having ZFS snapshots of / would be useful for updates going forward.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by jpsnz »

Tenoke wrote: post #93
jpsnz wrote: post #66

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From the link, I had to run sudo do-release-upgrade -d to get mine to upgrade.

I'm always wary of upgrading from an LTS to the next one instead of preinstalling from scratch. Did you run into any issues?

I didn't run into any issues myself, however I'm not running a GUI or anything on this machine so I didn't have as many dependencies to upgrade. The whole process took maybe 20 minutes.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by llarsson »

bArray wrote: post #51
doublesCs wrote: post #32

For a long time I've been using Lubuntu on my laptop. However, a couple of years ago they changed focus and From wikipedia: Lubuntu was originally touted as being "lighter, less resource hungry and more energy-efficient", but now aims to be "a functional yet modular distribution focused on getting out of the way and letting users use their computer" I stopped updating my OS since (I'm on 14). Does anyone care to sugg…

Just take Ubuntu Server and throw a light window manager on top. Ubuntu Server is pretty lightweight as is and there are still some very nice lightweight window managers out there. Something like WM2 is ultra low [1], but watch out if you're running a laptop as you won't get battery monitoring! [1] http://www.xwinman.org/

That web site is horribly out of date, and thus, their "activity rating" of projects is hilariously wrong. I was very happy to see that it claimed that my old pal fluxbox is highly active, but the last three news items on the fluxbox site are from 2015, 2008, and 2006, respectively.

But I fully agree with your general sentiment that the best way to use Ubuntu is to go with the Server install and then adding only what you actually want on top of it. I've never had anything but a good and responsive system with that approach.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by jpsnz »

renewiltord wrote: post #77
jpsnz wrote: post #66

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From the link, I had to run sudo do-release-upgrade -d to get mine to upgrade.

Thank you. Wow, they removed Python 2.7 huh? Had to clear out some packages to let that go through.

No worries. Yep, that's an exciting change they've gone and made.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by usr1106 »

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

> It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal.

Oh, I did not even notice that during 4+ weeks on the unreleased Xubuntu Focal because I never use anything else but the command line to install software. But the target audience Ubuntu is wider, so I think that is a very bad change. One might think they have learned from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 , but obviously not. Well, formally they declared bug #1 solved, but few would agree that the Linux desktop has won.

How does the snap "repo" compare to the Ubuntu repos in terms of count? I would have guessed it's orders of magnitude. Even if many of the packages might not be useful for those requiring an installation GUI.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

coinerone wrote: post #96
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #48

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Just switch to LibreOffice. The dependency on .docx/.xlsx is an overblown propaganda. I personally had a business in 2007..2011 that replaced windows for Linux. All that time I heard that same old song again: "But but MS Office is so essential!". Turned out, not so much, on over 5000 PCs in several dozen companies. Update: business eventually failed, for one simple reason - Ubuntu Linux is too freaking stable. The id…

Have you ever tried to open an Excel Sheet from 2002, that one that is existencially important for the whole success of the company :), with makros as big as the Windows Codebase itself, in Libre Office? I can tell MS Office will not leave the field.

Don't you even get me started on xls from 2002. That pathetic standard was poorly supported even my MS itself, files were opening with great difficulties and differences even on same version of Excel on different PCs, and sometimes newer versions could not open them properly at all. Once I have discovered that one .XLS file could internally have different types of encoding within one same document.

Anyway. It is clear that MS Office will not leave the field, like FORTRAN, but the key principle is the same: if you want to get out of the pit, you should stop digging. DO NOT create new spreadsheets in XLSX format. DO NOT ever send out MS Office documents. That's it, simple rules. Follow them for 5 years and you'll wonder, how little you depend on MSOffice.

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