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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by DenseComet »

jeroenhd wrote: post #65

Every time I see OpenCore I feel like trying to make a Hackintosh again, but then I remember that my GPU is an Nvidia one and that it will never have drivers on any recent macOS releases. My laptop is another contender, but that has an Intel wireless card so that will never be supported either. The network card issue can probably be worked around through some virtualisation, but the laptop CPU is too old to do IOMMU…

You might just be able to pop out your Intel wireless card and install a compatible broadcom card. They don't seem to be too expensive so could be a cool project during this time.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

Hackintosh has a tendency to create amusing technical problems, so I thought I'd share some I've come across over the years.

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I had one computer that would only boot if a specific USB Bluetooth adapter was connected. If it wasn't inserted while the computer turned on, I'd get a kernel panic during the bootup process. However, I could unplug the adapter after boot and everything would be fine.

I didn't notice the problem until several months after I'd set up the Hackintosh, when I tried to replace my current Bluetooth adapter with a more powerful "class 1" dongle.

(I don't remember how I eventually fixed this.)

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I had another computer which wouldn't boot outside of safe mode. I couldn't remember the flag for turning on extra debug messages, but instead of looking it up like a smart person, I guessed and typed "debug=yes". This did not enable any extra messages, but it did cause the computer to boot correctly.

As far as I can tell, debug=yes is not a valid kernel flag. At least at the time, there was no information about it anywhere on the internet. But this computer would not boot without it. Removing the flag caused it to once again get stuck, and adding it back made everything work again.

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This one didn't happen to me personally. I was browsing some Hackintosh forum, and I came across a thread titled (paraphrasing):

> Help! Audio only works while I'm moving my mouse!

This might be my favorite technology problem ever.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by dreamer_soul »

I just got a workstation grade Dell machine t7610 to be exact spent more than a week trying to hackentosh it but couldn't for some reason I always got some obscure error and none of the fixes worked. Found someone at GitHub with a similar machine but different graphics card and still couldn't make it work. But that got me thinking maybe there is a place for a tool where you feed it your hardware and it generates the most optimal configuration and image

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

_vbdg wrote: post #6

I just built a new hackintosh with opencore, and compared to clover, it was so much nicer. The documentation [0] is excellent; I'm able to grok what each option does rather than just guessing. It also feels so much less janky than clover did. Better filevault support, faster, leave SIP on, etc. It's also better in that one can avoid polluting /L/E /S/L/E, which will also allow users to keep running kexts even after A…

Hi, I looked at the guide - it seems there are no step by step instructions there.

Do you think this a good guide given that you just walked through the experience?

I am looking for a solid step-by-step guide that explains what USB to make etc

https://khronokernel-2.gitbook.io/opencore-vanilla-desktop-g...

Or this one:

https://insanelymacdiscord.github.io/Getting-Started-With-Op...

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by greendave »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #46
doteka wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this is a genuinely surprising attitude to me. You appreciate the software features and hardware stability of a platform, yet you do not want the creators to be paid for their work? I mean, it must be obvious that doing these things well apparently costs tons of man-hours and someone needs to be compensated for it? How do you maintain that degree of cognitive dissonance?

I don't disagree with this sentiment, but Apple laptops can be limiting in a lot of ways: * Want a keyboard with more travel? (Or, until recently, one that just won't break.) Too bad. * Want USB A ports? Better track down a 2015 MBP. * Want a touch screen? Go buy an iPad. So, basically the same reasons you'd want to build a Hackintosh desktop. Back when OS X releases were sold, though, I always made a point of buying…

Everybody has their pet peeves. Mine is upgradeability.

You can't get a Mac laptop where everything isn't soldered in. You can't get a Mac desktop with built-in expansion options under $6k.

I don't begrudge Apple their design choices. I'm even willing to pay a substantial markup for their hardware. But deliberately crippling systems to prevent them from remaining useful over the long-haul is really unfortunate and wasteful.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by agildehaus »

jeroenhd wrote: post #65

Every time I see OpenCore I feel like trying to make a Hackintosh again, but then I remember that my GPU is an Nvidia one and that it will never have drivers on any recent macOS releases. My laptop is another contender, but that has an Intel wireless card so that will never be supported either. The network card issue can probably be worked around through some virtualisation, but the laptop CPU is too old to do IOMMU…

For anyone with an nVidia GPU, at least on my desktop I can just use my integrated Intel GPU while leaving my nVidia 2080 in the slot for Windows.

Works like a charm. Just a simple boot flag required with WhateverGreen.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by agildehaus »

sahin-boydas wrote: post #68

This will give so many opportunities to people who can pay their 10x monthly income to a buy 2-year-old mac :)) I think Apple had a stupid idea to become more luxurious and hire Angela Jean Ahrendts for 100M. God bless they realize, if they go for volume and price aggressive (as Steve Jobs said), more people can benefit. I want hackintosh to work so well that indirectly, it will force Apple to develop way cheaper com…

Apple appears to be headed in the direction of making their own processors for their desktops and laptops, so this Hackintosh business isn't going to last much longer.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by weaksauce »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #81
terhechte wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I'm currently thinking about also going this route I do have some questions, if I may. Could you elaborate what your hardware setup is? Do you have two screens, and two powerful GPUs? Or do you use a HDMI Switch for one screen? Basically, how do you cope with the hardware limitations of GPU Passthrough (I briefly looked into using a single GPU for passthrough, which seems possible but involved rewriting the GPU ro…

You don't need to rewrite the GPU rom! I never set it up fully due to other issues, but I had High Sierra + GPU passthrough working quite well in ESXI last fall. I would still be using ESXI now, except my (unusual) goal was to run 10.9, and I couldn't for the life of me get GPU passthrough working in 10.9. The neat thing about ESXI, though, is that it is officially supported by macOS. Only on Apple hardware, of cours…

do you have any resources to look at for setting this up?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by MegaDeKay »

rubatuga wrote: post #124
x3sphere wrote: post #72

I use OpenCore but have switched my Hackintosh system over to running in a VM (using GPU passthrough). It's easier for me to backup / make changes this way, and there is only a minor performance hit. This is a Geekbench run from my VM (Core i9 10940x with 4 cores passed through): https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15395105 I have a Windows 10 VM running on a same system too. It may not be suitable if you require vi…

If you're looking to create a macOS VM (w/ GPU Passthrough), I've made a detailed guide here: https://github.com/yoonsikp/macOS-KVM-PCI-Passthrough I believe my guide is better at avoiding GPU driver initialization problems than others. I'll need to update it to support OpenCore however.

Consider taking a look at this Opencore setup specifically configured for KVM and GPU passthrough.

https://github.com/Leoyzen/KVM-Opencore

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by kposehn »

Digory wrote: post #58
kposehn wrote: post #24

I’ve been using a Hack Pro for several months with OpenCore. It took a bit to learn my way through the docs as they were not terribly clear when I started but once I was up and running it was nice. I was largely happy with it, as the machine was extremely fast and very, very quiet. I also had FileVault running too along with SIP. However, the main issues I had were stability - these machines are generally nowhere nea…

You mean OpenCore is not as stable? Hackintoshes in general have become really stable, at least on the "recommended" hardware from sites like TonyMacx86. I've had a Clover Hack Pro as my primary workstation for at least 4 years now -- and it's more stable than my 2018 Macbook Air.

It's more that any hackintosh isn't perfect, and you'll notice some glaring flaws.

For me, it restarted on wake about 15% of the time. But every time that happened, it was always jarring. In addition, I would occasionally get some crazy graphic glitches which required a force restart (I was using the internal graphics on an i9 chip, so it should have been perfectly stable - but wasn't).

However, iCloud worked perfectly (along with handoff, copy/paste between devices, etc.). But in the back of my mind I knew that I was running a machine that had code not from apple on it, and that would always be a small but real risk.

I bought a Mac mini i7 1tb and dropped 64gb of ram in it. I get practically the same performance for the same price in parts, plus a T2 security chip. The only price I've paid is slightly more noise under load, which happens infrequently.

If I had it to do again, I would have gone with the Mac mini instead, but it was a good learning experience and taught me a lot about the lower levels of the system.

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