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What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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post #56

I hosted a little file sharing utility at fy.lc that recently vanished from the internet. I guess I always suspected this was a possibility given the general jankiness of nic.lc but it's still pretty disappointing. Nobody should run anything serious on a ccTLD.

> Nobody should run anything serious on a ccTLD.

Except of course if they’re from the country in question, in which case it carries extra end-user trust.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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post #56

I hosted a little file sharing utility at fy.lc that recently vanished from the internet. I guess I always suspected this was a possibility given the general jankiness of nic.lc but it's still pretty disappointing. Nobody should run anything serious on a ccTLD.

> Nobody should run anything serious on a ccTLD. Except of course if they’re from the country in question, in which case it carries extra end-user trust.

I'd trust a .com over a .lc even in Saint Lucia, ymmv

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

#73
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then https://www.opennic.org is for you! Welcome friend!

That's really cool, but none of the listed projects seem to work (e.g. grep.geek, post.uu, be.libre, opennic.chan...). Am I missing something? Do I have to do something special to access these domains?

Yes, use an OpenNiC NS too.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.yu ccTLD shows what else can happen, i.e. domains of ex-countries can be killed off.

This whole thing kinda makes me nervous for using a .in and not being from India.

Why? There are no restrictions on using .in domains.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

#75

A nice, spammy scare piece. The bit about the UK somehow losing its permanent seat on the UN Security Council over Diego Garcia was a wee bit off. The UN’s charter would have to be changed to change the permanent members of the Security Council. Those same permanent members can veto any such proposed change. They can’t be forced out without rupturing things to the point of just creating a separate UN 2.0 excluding th…

Their example of an “unsuccessful domain migration” is Gander Mountain.

The drop in traffic might have been a result of the fact that they liquidated all of their US stores...

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody should run anything serious on a ccTLD. Except of course if they’re from the country in question, in which case it carries extra end-user trust.

I'd trust a .com over a .lc even in Saint Lucia, ymmv

To the contrary, in lots of European countries even international brands buys ccTLDs for their regional sites, because that’s what the local population expects.

.com is often considered the “American” TLD, and you want to go to your local store, with local offers, prices and which speaks your language.

.com often effectively means you need to import and pay customs, and nobody wants that.

Not having an appropriate ccTLD will be major drawback in lots of markets. Nobody serious about their business is going to risk that.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

#77
post #32

It seems that there is an easy solution here that is being overlooked. Allow any country to nominate their ccTLD for conversion to gTLD, and make that automatic when a country dissolves. Hold an auction for the gTLD for anyone who qualifies under the existing gTLD rules, and the highest bidder gets to run the gTLD. The proceeds of the auction go to the country that owned the ccTLD. A lot of small countries would prob…

This works until the BIOT becomes part of Mauritius and the eastern part of Ohio declare sovereignty under the name Inner Ohio and get the ISO code IO :)

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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post #32

It seems that there is an easy solution here that is being overlooked. Allow any country to nominate their ccTLD for conversion to gTLD, and make that automatic when a country dissolves. Hold an auction for the gTLD for anyone who qualifies under the existing gTLD rules, and the highest bidder gets to run the gTLD. The proceeds of the auction go to the country that owned the ccTLD. A lot of small countries would prob…

This works until the BIOT becomes part of Mauritius and the eastern part of Ohio declare sovereignty under the name Inner Ohio and get the ISO code IO :)

Presumably the entire point of this is that if Mauritius no longer wanted to run the .io domain it would automatically go up for auction.

Also, you can't reuse ccTLDs.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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A nice, spammy scare piece. The bit about the UK somehow losing its permanent seat on the UN Security Council over Diego Garcia was a wee bit off. The UN’s charter would have to be changed to change the permanent members of the Security Council. Those same permanent members can veto any such proposed change. They can’t be forced out without rupturing things to the point of just creating a separate UN 2.0 excluding th…

While that might be true, UK might renounce its rights if the pressure is very high.
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