Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free

Post by ajross » Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 1:35 AM UTC

lazyasciiart wrote: post #162

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Are there any data on the severity of the symptoms? From what I've gathered, but without any hard data, in non-severe cases (i.e. not needing hospitalization) they can vary from a slight sore throat, dry cough and mild fever, to the same with a high fever and general sense of exhaustion.

Non-severe covers bronchitis, pneumonia, etc. My friend (who tested positive but was not hospitalized) described it as "chest pain, difficulty breathing, if I do something silly like walk 10 feet to the kitchen I get lightheaded and hold on to the wall" - for about ten days.

Post by nradov » Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 1:42 AM UTC

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Well we'll know whether they were asymptomatic or presymptomatic in about five days after the typical incubation period has passed.

The point was more that the "typical incubation period" you are citing seems to be wrong, and not the presentation of the disease. Obviously yes, we'll know more with more data, but that's not an independent variable you're introducing.

Post by chasd00 » Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 1:48 AM UTC

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All the data points to the fact that coronavirus is more widespread and less deadly than most outlets are reporting (after all, increase the denominator, the % goes down). The countries with the lowest death rates are also the countries that did the most comprehensive testing. Ditto for this aircraft carrier. Of course governments and outlets are fearmongering lest they be accused of not doing enough, but this thing…

Sad to see that everything that tries to bring some positivity to this crisis or a different point of view gets downvoted into oblivion here, including studies and opinions on how we’re doing more harm with certain measures.

Post by asdf21 » Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 1:50 AM UTC

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This is the terrible take that will be everywhere in the next few weeks; “I think I had it, therefore I am an expert on the spread of this disease”. There is no data or coherent argumentation here. I’m sorry you were sick, but this isn’t an argument based on facts, it’s an anecdote based off of little that might put people in danger. We need to inoculate ourselves from this argument because we are about to see it eve…

I too am a 'pretty sure I had it already' person. I have also spoken to others that, like me, think they might have had it already. In the weeks before the story went crazy I bought a dehumidifier in the belief that this might help me eradicate a dry cough that would not go away. Not for one moment did I think I had coronavirus at the time, however, as time went on, I began to wonder. Placebo or not, the dehumidifier…

Post by Jordanpomeroy » Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 1:51 AM UTC

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How do we KNOW it's controlled? Asymptomatic people are not, as a rule, tested, so actual infection rates could be massive.

No country except Iceland or South Korea knows how many are infected, everyone else's numbers are horribly wrong. But death numbers and hospitalization numbers don't lie. Sure, different countries are counting deaths differently, making it hard to compare them to each other, but the trajectories don't lie. And if you look at growth trajectories, no country is experiencing uncontrolled exponential growth at this point…