L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Eliminated’

Post by ceilingcorner » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 12:23 PM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #333

ceilingcorner wrote: post #313

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> we seem to be favoring the economy over human life I really don't agree with this meme at all and the evidence doesn't support it whatsoever. The people that are hurt most by the shutdown are lower class service workers, not Wall Street stockbrokers. As I just mentioned, everyday people are hurting far more from the lockdown than from the virus. If you really cared about the average person, you'd want to get societ…

The problem is that as the lock downs work, it's easy to lose sight of what could have been, they stop it getting out of control and it still looks bad as there was the initial clump of infections, but the abstract hundreds per day that are dying are still fairly remote for most of us as only 1%-2% of many of our populations got infected. One can still throw around figures of "it's less death than this" or "the lock…

Post by ceilingcorner » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 12:25 PM UTC

gwd wrote: post #339

ceilingcorner wrote: post #290

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Do you understand that millions of people are now out of work and won't be able to support their families, businesses are collapsing, calls to suicide lines are up massively, and society is general is not functioning? This is a complex issue. Using hyperbolic emotional appeals to drown out discussion is not the right move.

> Using hyperbolic emotional appeals to drown out discussion is not the right move. But isn't that what you just did here? > Do you understand that millions of people are now out of work and won't be able to support their families, businesses are collapsing, calls to suicide lines are up massively, and society is general is not functioning? So let's do some math instead. The last stats I had were that 5% of people wh…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 12:29 PM UTC

tempsy wrote: post #26

I’m definitely in the camp that “the cure cannot be worse than the disease” itself. Sitting in California where there are so few cases makes me wonder if the economic toll is totally worth it. Seems like we’ve used a tsunami to put out a campfire.

Post by PopeDotNinja » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 12:37 PM UTC

easytiger wrote: post #305

rgovostes wrote: post #125

The LA Times's investigation into Purdue Pharma in 2016 revealed internal Purdue documents demonstrating the company's culpability in fueling the opioid crisis. > The documents provide a detailed picture of the development and marketing of OxyContin, how Purdue executives responded to complaints that its effects wear off early, and their fears about the financial impact of any departure from 12-hour dosing. I don't h…

At the end of the day, if a doctor is prescribing medication against clinical guidelines, surely the doctor is at fault? If a pharma warehouse is burgled then it's on the burglars. Am I missing something regarding this case? Did they mislead doctors? Edit: Downvotes to -4 with no engagement for asking a question. This place has gone downhill rapidly

Post by viewer5 » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 12:39 PM UTC

erik_seaberg wrote: post #175

empath75 wrote: post #51

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It’s preventing one to three million Americans from dying this year. How much is that worth to you.

It was probably the right thing because it was conceivable to end up with 30 million pneumonia victims and no way to treat them all. But we shouldn't forget we had to waste 0.1% of all 328 million lives (one month/78.54 years under house arrest) and counting.