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Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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What does a lizard have to do with SRE?

Great question. As an O'Reilly author myself, I can tell you that we have no control over the animal selected. There's a fun animal selection process, but the publisher's decide. Disclaimer - I work for Google and worked on this book.

Hey, at least you didn’t get Cthulhu on the cover, like Andrew Lombardi’s WebSocket.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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I scanned the introduction, but failed to see any concrete information on the expertise of the authors on security. Can anybody speak to the expertise of the authors on security? In particular, I am interested in specific projects or initiatives they directed or lead. The state of systems before and after these projects. If there were any long-term regressions after their involvement. To be even more concrete if poss…

1. Is it reasonable to expect a very specific list of questions to be addressed in the introduction to a book?

No. These are questions for people in this thread who may have knowledge on these matters. They are also just detail for the more general question asked earlier about their expertise in case whoever is reading could speak to those more specific questions.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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I know it can happen to anyone and that every system will eventually go down no matter how many resources are spent or how smart you are. Heck, it might even be financially prudent to not chase those last 9s of uptime. But r̶e̶l̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ posting this hours after a huge outage that affected most services for over an hour and also less than 12 days after a similar multi-hour outage seems somewhat ironic. EDIT: gues…

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Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m on mobile safari and the ePub and mobi files open as text. This means I can’t export them to Apple Books or the iOS kindle app. Could you please trigger a download instead if possible ?

Thanks for the feedback. This is a known issue that another user flagged this morning. The team is pursuing a fix. The content-type on the file is incorrect :/. In the meantime, you can open it in a browser and email it to yourself. Not ideal, but a workaround. [EDIT]: s/pursing/pursuing

Thanks for sharing but can we not publish this straight on the web? It would be nice if access is frictionless.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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I know it can happen to anyone and that every system will eventually go down no matter how many resources are spent or how smart you are. Heck, it might even be financially prudent to not chase those last 9s of uptime. But r̶e̶l̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ posting this hours after a huge outage that affected most services for over an hour and also less than 12 days after a similar multi-hour outage seems somewhat ironic. EDIT: gues…

I guess people didn't like that - "it might even be financially prudent to not chase those last 9s of uptime." It just promotes bad mindset

Ok, how many 9s does your SLA ensure? Why not one more?

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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The most challenging part of this series is not in the material itself. These insights are learnings through hard experience and scale from Google are invaluable. No, the hard thing for everyone is to recognize is that most companies are not Google and don't have Google's problems, resources, or time to follow these practices. Definitely read the material, I will thoroughly, but don't apply this blindly. Solve YOUR p…

There is certainly a huge YAGNI danger here. 10 people shops should read this, but keep their socks on.

I love the part in that other SRE book where they say to “keep it simple” right after describing probably the most involved, meticulous and vast set of software engineering practices of the last 10 years.

“Simple” if you have 10B+ in the bank and 1000+ engineers to run the show.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Is there a more digestible version of SRE concepts somewhere? I'm just looking for an easier way to communicate core principles and concepts to my team without asking them to sink into 500 pages?

My favorite book on this topic is the DevOps Handbook. The author lays out a very clear and easy to follow path that gives you the same result: secure and reliable systems.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great question. As an O'Reilly author myself, I can tell you that we have no control over the animal selected. There's a fun animal selection process, but the publisher's decide. Disclaimer - I work for Google and worked on this book.

Just curious deals like this work. Does Google pay O'Reilly for the editing and typography or does O'Reilly make money by selling the book themselves.

O'Reilly provides their editorial capabilities. Google provides content. Neither Google, nor O'Reilly benefits from the book directly. Marketing. Future gains for both.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Genuinely curious: What secure and reliable systems has Google built? Nothing really springs to mind. Android, their most popular end-user product, is a security disaster [1]. Chrome, "the most secure browser in the world", has a huge list of serious vulnerabilities [2]. [1] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~drt24/papers/spsm-scoring.pdf [2] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

Can you name a more secure OS or browser?

Unisys ClearPath MCP or Green Hills INTEGRITY OS, for example.
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