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Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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What does a lizard have to do with SRE?

O'Reilly-published books often have an animal on the cover. I don't think they are picked for relevance to the topic (even most of the Python books don't have pythons!)

https://www.oreilly.com/content/a-short-history-of-the-oreil...

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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I'm wondering if this has floated to the top of HN because of the recent GCP outages (both a few days ago and from this morning). I'm trying to figure out if this is coincidental or ironic. NOTE: As a heavy user of GCP we we're affected by the three most recent outages (GCIC20005, GCIC20004, GCIC20003), but I definitely feel for those that were impacted.

Coincidence and irony aren't mutually exclusive. In any case, it's not surprising that free books about SRE have been noticed by HN users during a time of widescale quarantine.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Genuinely curious: What secure and reliable systems has Google built? Nothing really springs to mind. Android, their most popular end-user product, is a security disaster [1]. Chrome, "the most secure browser in the world", has a huge list of serious vulnerabilities [2]. [1] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~drt24/papers/spsm-scoring.pdf [2] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

Google search, gmail, maps, their ad systems...?

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Genuinely curious: What secure and reliable systems has Google built? Nothing really springs to mind. Android, their most popular end-user product, is a security disaster [1]. Chrome, "the most secure browser in the world", has a huge list of serious vulnerabilities [2]. [1] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~drt24/papers/spsm-scoring.pdf [2] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

You believe that Google Accounts, GMail, and GDrive are fundamentally insecure and unreliable? Compared to what?

You mean the same Google services running on top of data centers that the NSA had infiltrated and was monitoring for years?

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Genuinely curious: What secure and reliable systems has Google built? Nothing really springs to mind. Android, their most popular end-user product, is a security disaster [1]. Chrome, "the most secure browser in the world", has a huge list of serious vulnerabilities [2]. [1] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~drt24/papers/spsm-scoring.pdf [2] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

Can you name a more secure OS or browser?

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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post #19

Genuinely curious: What secure and reliable systems has Google built? Nothing really springs to mind. Android, their most popular end-user product, is a security disaster [1]. Chrome, "the most secure browser in the world", has a huge list of serious vulnerabilities [2]. [1] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~drt24/papers/spsm-scoring.pdf [2] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

You believe that Google Accounts, GMail, and GDrive are fundamentally insecure and unreliable? Compared to what?

Has anyone ever compromised search?

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Off-topic: It made me chuckle to see this well-designed page, with great+free content, and also pulling in angular.js, doesn't follow Google's recommended practices for SERP, e.g. meta tags so that pasting the link into Slack, etc. displays some info rather than just the bare URL

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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post #23

Genuinely curious: What secure and reliable systems has Google built? Nothing really springs to mind. Android, their most popular end-user product, is a security disaster [1]. Chrome, "the most secure browser in the world", has a huge list of serious vulnerabilities [2]. [1] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~drt24/papers/spsm-scoring.pdf [2] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224...

Google search, gmail, maps, their ad systems...?

Weren't they all compromised by NSA, as well as China. And those are the issues that became public. Look up Operation Aurora for instance, or the famous slide deck that highlighted lack of encryption inside Google's network - and security intelligence even put a smile face there!

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You believe that Google Accounts, GMail, and GDrive are fundamentally insecure and unreliable? Compared to what?

You mean the same Google services running on top of data centers that the NSA had infiltrated and was monitoring for years?

if it's so secure that only state sponsored actors can force their way in, thats pretty damn secure.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Hey everyone - Seth from Google here. Thank you for all the positive comments about the book. I'll be around to answer any questions you might have. As noted, the book can be downloaded for free in digital formats. PDF: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/SRS.pdf EPUB: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-epub.epub MOBI: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-mobi.mobi

No questions, just THANK YOU for this effort and for making it public.

We use it here to help expand people's minds, shifting their thinking from just writing applications to designing for large-scale HA systems, with all the fun pitfalls that lurk in a cloud.

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