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SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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The Zoom CEO and founder is chinese. He was refused a Visa to the US (8 times!). It's not inspiring, it's scary. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-18/u-s-refus...

Hey, you should say the quiet part loud.

The quiet part? You mean "the only people we should let spy on us is our own government"?

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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post #181

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Hey, you should say the quiet part loud.

The quiet part? You mean "the only people we should let spy on us is our own government"?

The quiet part is "American citizens of Chinese descent can't be trusted". This is as obvious of a dogwhistle as when people "innocently" point out that the CEO of some maligned Wall Street firm is Jewish and I have no idea why it's getting upvotes on this site.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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Sarcasm critique: I think a quote would make it clearer: > > iCloud isn't some separate entity from iMessage. It's all Apple. > Got any sources for that? Sounds a lot like FUD.

Not sarcasm. Sources please.

Let's not use sarcasm or sources..... Let's puzzle it out.

You don't use a password to encrypt your iCloud backups... They're specific to the hardware your backing up. If you have an itouch for example it's backups are separate from your phone.

So now you have these backups in the cloud and you lose your iPhone, you remote wipe it.

Now your new one arrives and you restore from backup... Your iMessage private keys are available to apple unencrypted .... Because you didn't need to provide a second factor of authentication for unlocking the backup you were just asked which one to use.

Apple and any reputable nation-state can read your iMessages with a subpoena ... If you use iCloud backups and not local backups with a password.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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which means fuck all.

It means that it's opaque to your ISP and other people on your network, which is at the very least useful for people using it at McDonald's or a university.

So, pretty much the opposite of all those people currently using it instead of going together to McDonald's or university?

On a more serious note, you would need to trust not one ISP if the video wasn't encrypted, but all the ISPs in the room simultaneously, and that is probably something even less trustworthy than Facebook.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#185
I really really wish Apple would build a replacement for zoom, that is available on as many devices as zoom is.

This is a matter of national issue. This rush to remote is not something that will go away completely.

I think many security minded people are not comfortable with zoom, but have to use it.

Please Apple, build something that can replace zoom.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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So what's a good open source replacement? Jitsi, Jitsi Meet, Linphone, Ekiga, Jami and a bunch of others look okay [1], but it's hard to say how easy they are to use. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software

I've used Jitsi Meet with ordinary (that is, non-IT) people without trouble.I've also recommended it to elementary school teachers, who have been happy with it. It works with desktop browser, on mobile it offers a minimal app installation. Self-hosting is quite easy with their apt repo.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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So what's a good open source replacement? Jitsi, Jitsi Meet, Linphone, Ekiga, Jami and a bunch of others look okay [1], but it's hard to say how easy they are to use. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software

I don't even know the other projects because I'm so satisfied with Jitsi. Everyone around me uses it and also seems pretty happy.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#188

Spacex is a targeted environment. It's smart for them to not use such a service. Many years back it was getting hardware shipments intercepted and bugged. A company was spun out of just dealing with the amount of attempts to root Elons devices.

Which company?

Musk is My Daddy LLC.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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IDA Pro is an reverse engineering tool sold by Hex Rays, which, for the last decade or two has been the the go-to software for security research, with very few actual competitors in the area (though this has been changing recently, depending on who you ask and what your needs are). It is fairly infamous for its exorbitant price (many thousands of dollars) and the company's extreme willingness to go after "pirates" (a…

Let me just add (in addition to what you wrote, all of which I've experienced) that I literally (using the term correctly here) had to /beg/ them to take my money ($7500, I think). Very long story, but long story short, I needed the tool urgently (this was pre-Ghidra), like hours & days mattered. I am a small company, they were "skeptical" of me and my intentions, they demanded all sorts of paperwork and IDs, etc. It…

Oh yes, I have heard this too. I know some people who have been “blacklisted” from ever buying IDA because Hex Rays thought they had “associated” with people with pirated copies. They are very selective with who gets the software and how they can use it…

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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post #120

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If marketing misuses a term on the website because they didn't understand what it meant, that's their fault. If they listed a feature that hasn't yet shipped, that's their fault. It's natural that there is a divide and marketing isn't expected to understand every engineering thing (nor the other way around.) If your job is to write words, though, you are responsible for the words you right.

you are responsible for the words you right. Wait, did you do that on purpose? :)

:)
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