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SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#71
I feel very conflicted on Zoom. It mostly just works and on every platform, even Linux. My kids use it to do their music lessons now. It really is very good at what it does in a time when such solutions are needed. Also they responded to the mobile facebook sdk issue and the macos issue quickly.

But I agree the way they suggest it is end to end encrypted is misleading. I don't think it really can be end to end to get the performance and features. People just need to see each other at the moment. You can do anything sensitive with more secure communication. But it clearly doesn't belong in any place discussing technology with military applications.

I still think it is solid for my kids to keep up with their lessons or for a weekly meeting about some web development. There are genuine criticisms of Zoom at the moment that need to be taken seriously but there is likely also some negative media being generated from their competition that are missing out.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#72

Setting up Jitsi on a very basic Linux VM is super easy. I know, because I am terrible at server setup and even I was able to do it in a couple of hours this morning.

Yes, but what do you know about its security?

Well, it's my own server, and the code is open source, so... pretty trivial to verify.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but what do you know about its security?

Well, it's my own server, and the code is open source, so... pretty trivial to verify.

>and the code is open source, so... pretty trivial to verify.

* laughs in Heartbleed

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#74
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To those saying SpaceX is subject to ITAR and defence standards, what does that say for anyone in healthcare, finance, California or Europe? Zoom is looking like it’s closer to Discord than Slack.

Zoom and Slack are both FedRamp authorized for government use. Zoom is even authorized Moderate, while Slack is still being audited for that rating. https://marketplace.fedramp.gov/#/product/zoom-for-governmen... https://marketplace.fedramp.gov/#/product/slack

You don't get zoom's government platform by default, you have to ask for it and I'll bet it has different pricing. I suspect you also lose some features, like recording (at least at the server). I haven't checked Zoom but other FedRamp products I've seen are 3x the price of the standard offering.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#75
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I looked into adding Zoom to our Slack workspace this morning, and was beside myself with the set of permissions they requested — reading the contents of every channel and private chat they're included in? For a slash command? That's a hard no. Turned me off the service entirely.

It's only available in the paid version, but slack's video conferencing works pretty well.

YMMV, but for me ut turns my computer into a simulation of a space heater even when I'm not sharing my screen, and those gigantic unhidable toolbars makes me feel like I'm playing whack a mole more than working a times.

Oh, and yes,I "almost forgot" ! How to they even physically manage to get multiple seconds latency at times, when everyone in the call is in the same city, and where the worst connection on the call is at about 20Mbit? Are they just buffering for the heck of it, why not simply drop some frames if you get behind?

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#79

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Agreed. It's unlikely they stumbled onto an industry standard phrase like that alone, then innocently used it without knowing the generally accepted meaning. This is deceptive advertising.

Using industry standard phrases without a complete understanding of meanings is... well, industry standard. ;)

Like some sort of distributed, cloud AI dictionary!

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but what do you know about its security?

Well, it's my own server, and the code is open source, so... pretty trivial to verify.

Yes, but what do you know about its security?

Your user name doesn't give me confidence...

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