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Post by ben_w »

harry8 wrote: post #234
simonh wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is absolutely now way GCHQ signed off on this.

And yet they are powerless. Back to recording private conversations like the Stasi then. What a wonderful institution. They're useful how, exactly? Not smacking their heads into the table nearly hard enough. Not even close.

That hyperbole might be an improvement.

Literally copying the literal Stasi approach to spying (not the rest, just spying) would simultaneously improve the quality of the data and reduce the negative side effects relative to the UK’s Investigatory Powers Act 2016.

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Post by lm28469 »

anon9001 wrote: post #189
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should have phrased that differently. I know it's largely parts of the 4chan crowd. But who are those boards? Why are the people who go there so nuts? Do you ever wonder if you've unknowingly met these people in real life? Chances are we all have, right? How do they manage to be so terrible and then go on with their lives?

/b/tard here. If you do public stuff on the internet, it's practically the obligation of the internet to show up and do something stupid. As far as I can tell, somewhere over the last 15 years, people began to confuse "the internet" with "real life". It's important to know that hosting a public space on the internet is not the same as hosting a public space in real life. I don't think this is even a so terrible examp…

"aha XD I owned alcoholics look at how clever and advanced am I, you normal human beings wouldn't understand, this is actually a societal critique aimed at bettering the world, we're artists" - /b/

> you have to be a bit more clever in your trouble-making

Or you know, once you're not 14 years old anymore you can reassess your life and decide it's not ok to DDOS hospitals during an epidemic, or call the swat on someone who beat you in a video game.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by jonathanstrange »

syockit wrote: post #80
tqi wrote: post #36

It feels like the tech news cycle is so predictable... Stage 1: This company you probably hadn't heard of before is blowing up / changing the world! Stage 2 (current stage): Actually it turns out this company has some unexpected problems! Stage 3: Actually this company is actively contributing to society's One Big Problem! Stage 4: Actually here is why Zoom actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks! Stage 5: This OTHE…

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

There is one huge difference, if I'm not mistaken. In our tests neither Skype nor Google Hangouts allowed the speaker of a talk to view the audience while screen sharing. It's annoying and feels very odd to give a two-hour lecture to your laptop with zero feedback from the audience.

Maybe we did something wrong, though, and missed features in Hangouts and Skype. If that is the case I'd be very happy if someone could point it out to me. (Our whole university is using Google Hangouts right now, because our administration doesn't want to pay for additional Zoom subscriptions.)

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Post by tomcooks »

whazor wrote: post #200
Zenst wrote: post #161

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Number 10 has had Video Conferencing since 1998 (I set it up with college and received first call from there), was H320 via ISDN2 affair and had dedicated black box encryption unit GCHQ supplied and dealt with. DOH (Department of Health) also had dedicated VC rooms as did all the regional officers and MCU bridging for multi point conferencing was outsourced when needed. All main DOH sites could do upto 384 with bonde…

I think video chatting with normal citizens would be quite difficult if you expect them to install VPN's and special video conference software that probably only works with gov.uk accounts. Grabbing a random laptop, connecting to the internet and using zoom sounds a lot easier.

In 2020 open source conferencing software requires ZERO software apart from any recent browser or login.

e.g. https://meet.jit.si/hellozoomhowareyou

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Post by tomcooks »

jorvi wrote: post #199
Thorentis wrote: post #58

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I'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?

In general (moreso focused on the EU than the Brits) I've never understood why the EU doesn't pump a billion a year, or a billion worth of dev hours a year into open source. That's an absolutely tiny, almost infitismal amount of EU budget (and even tinier for most member states their budget) and it would allow them to get out of the noose of closed source corporate support contracts and being beholden to foreign comp…

EU already does more than that, together with funding they get in touch with FOSS developers.

Please check https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/eu-fossa-2/news/how-c...

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Post by shermheadryder »

Thorentis wrote: post #58
verytrivial wrote: post #17

https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534... Yes, shared by the Prime Minister, number and all. What a time to be alive.

I'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?

You can self-host the video/audio parts of Zoom

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201363093-Deployin...

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

jacquesm wrote: post #151

It's a pretty low bar for the word 'break'. By the same token you could walk up to a bunch of people in a restaurant and start yelling at them while they're having dinner. That's also not a break. It's just a nuisance and proof that you're a jerk, and if you did it in person you'd likely end up with some dental work.

Except users don't realize that. They think they're sitting in a locked room that nobody else knows about, when in reality they're sitting at a restaurant table and most people just don't care to go bother them.

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Post by kemotep »

Legogris wrote: post #239
judge2020 wrote: post #173

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https://zoom.us/healthcare > HIPAA/PIPEDA plans start at $$200 per month per account, which comes with 10 hosts.

Zoom claiming it's compliant has nothing to do with it actually being compliant.

If they have filed the paperwork[0] then they are. (Whether their solution to be compliant is or is not enough would have to be audited.)

Apple's FaceTime is not HIPAA compliant because they haven't filed the paperwork.[1]

(Obviously, there are a lot more steps to it than signing a Business Associate agreement, but I would bet FaceTime is probably a little more secure than Zoom)

[0]:https://www.hipaajournal.com/become-hipaa-compliant/

[1]:https://www.hipaajournal.com/facetime-hipaa-compliant/

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by k__ »

I broke into a meeting by accident once.

Someone sent me a meeting URL and I clicked it, to see if everything was right.

Little did I know that people just get one Zoom URL for ALL of their meetings.

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