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Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by aledthemathguy »

godelski wrote: post #136
syockit wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

I've been using it for a few months and the group I work with has been using it much longer. The reason is because: It is easy It just works It works cross platform (why the hell is this such an issue!) Quality is good You can record meetings

My professor uses the whiteboard when giving lectures. Useful as well. Also, he shares his screen and just shows us his pdf files :)

The Uni tried a different software before Zoom (forgot the name but it started with a K, from a company I never heard of before). And it was VERY GOOD but the video was choppy.

Zoom isn't 10x better, it's just enough though.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by aledthemathguy »

api wrote: post #101
syockit wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

It works, the quality is decent, and it doesn't max out 4-8 cores for a simple video call. The others don't work, are Microsoft UI dumpster fires (Skype), or consume vast amounts of CPU (anything WebRTC for some reason).

-->it doesn't max out 4-8 cores for a simple video call

Why did no one else crack this issue? Google has some smart people and so does MSFT. Perhaps just lack of caring?

I don't get it.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by aledthemathguy »

fyfy18 wrote: post #125
api wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works, the quality is decent, and it doesn't max out 4-8 cores for a simple video call. The others don't work, are Microsoft UI dumpster fires (Skype), or consume vast amounts of CPU (anything WebRTC for some reason).

On Linux (Skylake u-i7) Zoom maxes out my CPU :-(

I came to the conclusion that if you want to run Linux, you must run Windows as well :) Sucks, but true.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by solidasparagus »

luckydata wrote: post #26
ljm wrote: post #6

Zoom has open conferences by default. Even if you host one on your business plan, anyone who has the number can dial into it. You could be paying a shitload of money for that, including their 'Zoom Rooms' where they fit out your meeting room with cameras and mics and their special app... and any fuckwit can dial in if they grab the phone number, which is also a US-based one. I don't like to join company calls on an a…

I had a quick feedback call set up by a common investor with Eric, Zoom's CEO a few years ago. I remember I pointed out a few of those issues, and his reply was that the only problem he could see with the app was that it wasn't "pretty enough" and it needed new icons. I hope Eric is learning something from this situation and will pay more attention in the future, every business gets those moments, maybe not that publ…

Seems like Zoom was right that they were better off focusing on the UX aspects over the privacy ones?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by alexcpn »

happened to my elder sister who is a teacher hosting video class due to lockdown in India. Some idiots think it is fun and the worst thing is that they put a video grab of this in their youtube channel - themed disruption or something - to drive traffic - yuck , the state of minds! and those who follow such channel. ( It is reported to local cybercell , but it left my sister who is bit older to all this technology very rattled)

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by sah2ed »

starpilot wrote: post #120
syockit wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

Cisco certainly isn't using Zoom. My old school corp employer is on Webex, along with using SAP and other bullshit represented by good sales teams.

The founder of Zoom (Eric Yuan) used to be a respected leader at Cisco but he eventually quit to focus full-time on Zoom.

Cisco didn’t fully understand the opportunity he saw to reduce the amount of friction needed to use most video conferencing (VC) software tools, including the tools by Cisco, which is understandable since Cisco was afraid they might cannibalize sales in their VC hardware business.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by jorvi »

Thorentis wrote: post #58
verytrivial wrote: post #17

https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534... Yes, shared by the Prime Minister, number and all. What a time to be alive.

I'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?

In general (moreso focused on the EU than the Brits) I've never understood why the EU doesn't pump a billion a year, or a billion worth of dev hours a year into open source. That's an absolutely tiny, almost infitismal amount of EU budget (and even tinier for most member states their budget) and it would allow them to get out of the noose of closed source corporate support contracts and being beholden to foreign companies. Imagine how much a billion a year would accomplish spread over projects like LibreOffice, Matrix/Riot, an EU Linux distro, etc.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by whazor »

Zenst wrote: post #161
Thorentis wrote: post #58

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I'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?

Number 10 has had Video Conferencing since 1998 (I set it up with college and received first call from there), was H320 via ISDN2 affair and had dedicated black box encryption unit GCHQ supplied and dealt with. DOH (Department of Health) also had dedicated VC rooms as did all the regional officers and MCU bridging for multi point conferencing was outsourced when needed. All main DOH sites could do upto 384 with bonde…

I think video chatting with normal citizens would be quite difficult if you expect them to install VPN's and special video conference software that probably only works with gov.uk accounts. Grabbing a random laptop, connecting to the internet and using zoom sounds a lot easier.
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