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Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Trolling is not a security advisory. If it were intended that way it would be sufficient to hold up a sign saying 'warning, this meeting is not secure'. Instead people are using it abuse others. Stop making excuses for that behavior.

As a poor man's red team, the reward of being a jerk is the compensation paid to the troll.

No.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Maybe covid-19 will get them actually grok e2e encryption

e2e encryption for multi-party videoconferencing that works well enough to use for something like this is basically an unsolved problem at this point.

How would it be any different from any other e2e group chat?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Also interesting about that photo: Five of the 25 have portrait-oriented video feeds. Tbh this may make more sense for this kind of thing (shows more of the person rather than more of the space they're in) but I'm thinking about the hardware—am I correct in inferring that those five are zooming from their mobile? Do high-level UK cabinet ministers not have laptops?

I only ever use Zoom on my phone - it frees up my laptop to be used during the call, and I refuse to install anything developed by that company on my laptop.

You can join Zoom meetings on your browser too. It's behind these twelve easy steps:

1. Go to zoom.com 2. Click "Join a meeting" 3. Enter meeting id and click Join 4. Ignore the automatic app download 5. Go back 6. Click "Join a meeting" again 7. Enter meeting id and click Join again 8. Ignore the app download again 9. Click at "If nothing prompts, click here" 10. Click "Join from your browser" 11. Agree to terms of service 12. Enter password and name, click Join

Yes, it actually requires you go back and try again at step 5. What dark pattern?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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post #172

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e2e encryption for multi-party videoconferencing that works well enough to use for something like this is basically an unsolved problem at this point.

How would it be any different from any other e2e group chat?

You have to send all available qualities of the stream yourself. Normally the server does the recompression for lower qualities. That means: more processing power and more bandwidth needed. Where normally you'd be able to send 720p, now your device may not be able to handle doing both that and lower quality (2-3 streams) at the same time. This multiplies again with screen sharing.

Basically it's doable, but if you can prevent people complaining about the fans taking off and the CPU usage... why would you risk it?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

It just works. Never used Jitsi, but the experience is far superior to Skype and Webex.

My attempts at Zoom meetings were met with distorted audio, and the organizer quickly changed to Jitsi in both cases. It worked much better for whatever reason.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Is it though?

https://zoom.us/healthcare > HIPAA/PIPEDA plans start at $$200 per month per account, which comes with 10 hosts.

A relevant thread from yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22735746

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

same. known zoom for a while... the "it just works" and "it has better quality" comments are very surprising to me and got me skeptical. are skype, slack, gotomeeting, hangouts, meet, webex, &c. all really crashing on people now? in a huge conspiracy? things i thought could be the real reason: novelty (for some/most people), popularity (someone online famous/influencer mentioned it), shadow marketing, luck. but wikip…

I've been working at remote-first companies for about the last four years, my current and previous company independently tested a bunch of video conferencing apps and both settled on zoom. It just works better than the alternatives. Yes better than skype, slack, gotomeeting, hangouts, meet and webex (and teams, since that's the other big one).

Sometimes it's call quality, sometimes it's stability, sometimes it's usability, sometimes it's features.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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post #172

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How would it be any different from any other e2e group chat?

You have to send all available qualities of the stream yourself. Normally the server does the recompression for lower qualities. That means: more processing power and more bandwidth needed. Where normally you'd be able to send 720p, now your device may not be able to handle doing both that and lower quality (2-3 streams) at the same time. This multiplies again with screen sharing. Basically it's doable, but if you ca…

Ugh. Multiple compression streams? Why? 720p would be too much IMHO.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Ah, that is problematic. I saw a documentary on Netflix about the British IT crowd. They were not an impressive bunch.

You're not referring to this show perhaps are you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd It is of course a comedy. The Brits in IT that I've met can compete with anyone on the planet.

The culture and character of this site is being increasingly damaged by attempts at humor in a style common on another popular site, but the site rules discourage us from discussing this.
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