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no, but it gives the host the link to share WITH the password, so people sharing the link also share the password (encoded)
This is an optional setting.
It was made the default a few weeks ago
Trolls break into meetings on Zoom
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Part of it is that, (at least in my experience, maybe this has changed) Zoom can scale to a couple hundred people in a way that tools like Google Hangouts can't. But like, if we're being honest, it probably has a lot to do with how easy it is to start a Zoom call and invite people. You can host a 40 minute meeting for free. No one needs to sign up anywhere. It's super easy to install but also works in the browser if…
It doesn't work for shit in the browser; it's deliberately crippled (compare browser-based Zoom to Google Meet or Whereby). And even then the browser interface is hidden behind multiple attempts to make you install and use their client instead.
Zoom tells me browser isn't modern enough and that I should use Chrome. Even in Chrome that still push to install their app. Thanks, next
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Facebook must be enjoying getting a few weeks off
Journalists are like locusts. They move on to the next juicy victim, but time to time return to ravage those few cash cow targets.
The journalists cover all sorts of material. We're the locusts consuming and posting the juicy bits to HN?
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#115It feels like the tech news cycle is so predictable... Stage 1: This company you probably hadn't heard of before is blowing up / changing the world! Stage 2 (current stage): Actually it turns out this company has some unexpected problems! Stage 3: Actually this company is actively contributing to society's One Big Problem! Stage 4: Actually here is why Zoom actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks! Stage 5: This OTHE…
Almost like we should vet them before we all jump aboard.
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#116I attended a PhD defense yesterday that got zoom bombed. They quickly moved it to an actively managed call and the presenter did a fine job of keeping their composure and getting back on track. Now we're circulating guides about how to set up secure rooms and webinars, so I don't anticipate this will happen again. Normally I'd wave this off as a childish prank, but both the URL and loading screen prominently indicate…
> Bombing this meeting in particular seems to be in especially bad taste during a pandemic Either that... or it's a way to get high profile attention to blatant security issues in a commonly used business meeting tool where sometimes sensitive information is shared.
Trolling is not a security advisory. If it were intended that way it would be sufficient to hold up a sign saying 'warning, this meeting is not secure'. Instead people are using it abuse others. Stop making excuses for that behavior.
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4chan
I should have phrased that differently. I know it's largely parts of the 4chan crowd. But who are those boards? Why are the people who go there so nuts? Do you ever wonder if you've unknowingly met these people in real life? Chances are we all have, right? How do they manage to be so terrible and then go on with their lives?
Territorial aggression.
There is trolling-as-prank which is inclusive of others in the forum where it takes place (although it may involve mockery of individuals) and raiding behavior, which is designed to damage the forum itself. The latter is area denial which is meant to gain leverage over a platform and (ideally) to take it over. This originated in rivalries (friendly not-so-friendly) between bulletin- and image-board operators, but has since been weaponized to quasi-political ends.
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It just works. Never used Jitsi, but the experience is far superior to Skype and Webex.
Could you elaborate on this? In what way is it superior?
From experience with many options, and having used zoom for over a year now: Video quality is better, audio quality is better, video and audio are streamed separately and during low bandwidth situations audio takes priority over video (video starts lagging but audio remains as perfect as possible), seamless to join meetings even when youre not a 'user' of their ecosystem, and has neat UX like informing you that your microphone is soft-muted when it notices you speaking, etc etc.
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#119Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom
#120It feels like the tech news cycle is so predictable... Stage 1: This company you probably hadn't heard of before is blowing up / changing the world! Stage 2 (current stage): Actually it turns out this company has some unexpected problems! Stage 3: Actually this company is actively contributing to society's One Big Problem! Stage 4: Actually here is why Zoom actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks! Stage 5: This OTHE…
I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?
Cisco certainly isn't using Zoom. My old school corp employer is on Webex, along with using SAP and other bullshit represented by good sales teams.