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Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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I just set up passwords on Zoom rooms for a little room automation project I'm building. There's no drawbacks; you can send out a link that includes the password, so nobody gets left out (no matter how technically challenged). And, someone who "stumbles upon" the room can't just get access. All in all, Zoom has done a lot of things right, given the extremely challenging competitive environment they're in.

Is including the password in the link always enabled? If you're looking at a link is there a way to tell if it has a password or not? I've had issues in the past where people with the link were unable to join since they didn't know the password.

Yes, it has a ?pwd query string (which appears to be a base 64 encode of the password)

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

#52
if FB didn't have privacy nightmares. They're well equipped to providing the solutions to the enterprise market. given that they probably have the most stable live video platforms which could be modified to support secure meetings

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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I know it's beside the point, but who are these people heartless enough to break into Alcoholics Anonymous meetings to tell them how good Alchohol is? There isn't even any monetary benefit. Who the heck thinks this is funny?

4chan

I should have phrased that differently.

I know it's largely parts of the 4chan crowd. But who are those boards? Why are the people who go there so nuts?

Do you ever wonder if you've unknowingly met these people in real life? Chances are we all have, right? How do they manage to be so terrible and then go on with their lives?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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post #51

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Is including the password in the link always enabled? If you're looking at a link is there a way to tell if it has a password or not? I've had issues in the past where people with the link were unable to join since they didn't know the password.

Yes, it has a ?pwd query string (which appears to be a base 64 encode of the password)

The pwd parameter is always 32 characters long, so I assume it's either a hash or a random nonce, rather than a direct encoding of the password.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

#56

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Does Zoom let you put a password on the room? Could that room have a password that is only known to the participants?

Yes and (in my experience) it displays it at the top of the screen!

no, but it gives the host the link to share WITH the password, so people sharing the link also share the password (encoded)

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

#57
I'm not really sure this should be called trolling, it's more just harassing/bullying/trespassing. When I think of trolling, at least when it's done well, it's more taking on overly self serious people to get a funny reaction (even if it's obnoxious). It's like a cousin of pranking, it shouldn't be cruel. There can be cruel pranks of course, but that's not the fundamental nature. Like Ken M leaving a really oblivious comments on facebook, or Something Awful forum members joining an online game chatroom as a weird cult ("the path is grey" :D ). Weird, funny, mostly harmless. I mean things like that are obnoxious sometimes but they can be funny and work as satire or social commentary. There's no cleverness to this.

(probably the wrong thing to write on HN since this place is uh not known for its sense of humor)

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

#58

https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534... Yes, shared by the Prime Minister, number and all. What a time to be alive.

I'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Ahh yes, the old ends justifying the means.

Not going to defend a bunch of trolls, if that's what you're implying. However, if we don't secure our systems, what do we expect? If there were no bad-actors in the world, people like tptacek would be out of work. What a glorious world it would be, no need for locked doors, fences, passwords, pin codes and more - but that's not the world we live in. Instead, we're in a world where Zoom has laughable security for bar…

I hope you're wearing a hard hat at all times; if not - then it's your fault when complete stranger smashes you with a brick. Who you will be mad at after that ?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534... Yes, shared by the Prime Minister, number and all. What a time to be alive.

More importantly, why does Liz Truss have a flagpole in her house?

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