Taiwan's new 'electronic fence' for quarantines leads wave of virus monitoring

Post by chillacy » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 2:15 AM UTC

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Part of that is having the hospital capacity for seasonal flu and accident victims. We're prepared for that. Coronavirus adding more cases will soon overwhelm hospitals in major US cities, at which point they will have to start triaging patients like they are in Italy. Presumably if this became the new norm then we would up our hospital capacity to match and then re-adjust our life expectancy numbers as well.

we don't have the hospital capacity for seasonal flu victims.

Post by scollet » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 2:48 AM UTC

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PR?

Permanent Residence thats good. Rules are rules, especially in these times.

Post by derefr » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 3:30 AM UTC

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> the authorities will call the number you put on that card to see if you're there or if you've checked into the hotel So... what happens when you’re not there? I.e. if the government just can’t find you? Does this then translate to a police APB or something?

"My phone, which is satellite-tracked by the Taiwan gov to enforce quarantine, ran out of battery at 7:30 AM. By 8:15, four different units called me. By 8:20, the police were knocking at my door." https://twitter.com/MiloHsieh/status/1241540231595044864?s=1...

Post by serf » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 3:43 AM UTC

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It not only could but it saves lives, I'm not disputing that. But the question is at what cost to the individual, the society, the economy and their future. What happens if the economy crashes? Is it reasonable and the price worth paying? We should be allowed to not only ask these questions but discuss them.

A crashed economy is not the end of the world. We'll live, for the most part. There will be ups and downs and yes some people will suffer and die from the economy. It was a shit economy anyway, unless you were one of the lucky ones. Most people had a stressful, shitty time of it. In comparison, a few % of the entire population of Earth dying unnecessarily because the hospitals couldn't treat them all at once seems a…

Post by serf » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 3:45 AM UTC

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Where are you getting the 5% from? You're just adding the 5% on and on prior to "What if's" that don't sound plausible to me. Although if you did quote experts there I would like to know, that could change my view. To my current knowledge it is more and more looking like its fatality rate is sitting around 1%. People, especially older ones, die, we often supress that thought in the western culture. And many die, ever…

hanspedah, people believe 5% is the death rate that occurs if medical services are not available (and would thus be much higher than the death rate if medical services are available). And if there is no mitigation, the vast majority of people that would need medical care wouldn't be able to get it.