GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobilization

Post by haunter » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 1:24 PM UTC

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Can’t say I agree. Surprisingly few people wear masks even when they are available - my local hardware stores have had plenty in stock and yet they barely get used. Finally, the benefit of masks is questionable since most people are now performing social distancing. Ventilators are needed for serious cases and cannot be produced as quickly as masks. While masks may or may not help, more ventilators will definitely he…

Because masks don't help prevent you getting it https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

Post by mrfusion » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 1:36 PM UTC

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Nope, rare earth elements are common pretty much everywhere. The only reason companies buy them from China is because they're cheaper due to their lower wages and lack of environmental protection. When China limited export of rare earths, leading to a dispute with Western countries, all that happened was suddenly Western mining firms became viable and attracted investment. China then dropped the export limits and dro…

Same thing the Chinese did with solar panels back in the early 2000s. Subsidise national production so it could run at a loss, forcing others out of business and cornering the market. In some sense it's pretty obvious that a free market capitalist system will mostly lose in competition with a state regulated system, if the latter decides it is important to have control of a sector.

Post by SAI_Peregrinus » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 1:47 PM UTC

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My feeling is that we should be focusing on training up medical people on a massive scale, as that's something that the USA is notoriously bad at Or just lock down nationally now, including full lockdown in major cities, and none of this will be necessary. The only reason this is going to get out of control in the US is the lack of testing and the lack of controls being imposed. By the time they are imposed, it will…

Nationally lock down now, and once we unlock down the virus will come back from foreign countries and be just as much of an issue. Slightly more of an issue in fact, because we will have just shot ourselves in the foot in terms of capability to deal with it via manufacturing.

Post by vsareto » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 1:47 PM UTC

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the disrespect for sleep the medical profession has is insane. If someone is gonna be cutting on me, I want them to have a good night's rest. They tell me to sleep consistently and well quite often. seems like if it's good for me it would be good for them, too.

it's a hazing ritual if too many make it to be doctors, the pay won't be as good.

Post by heyoo » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 1:54 PM UTC

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The content quoted in the "The Star" makes it seems more to me that he's calling the _panic_ dumb, not the necessities required to fight the pandemic, which he acknowledges exists in his follow-on tweets, at least the ones "The Star" quoted. I also think the "coronavirus panic" is dumb, but I'm defining the "panic" when I say this as people buying 5 years of toilet paper, and unless there's more context that's what I…

Elon Musk's words- “My frank opinion remains that the harm from the coronavirus panic far exceeds that of the virus itself. If there is a massive redirection of medical resources out of proportion to the danger, it will result in less available care to those with critical medical needs, which does not serve the greater good.” “My best guess, for what it’s worth, based on the latest Center for Disease Control data, is…