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Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Will Korea sell us tests? Will anyone? Has this been discussed anywhere?

Probably they would. WHO could also provide the USA with tests. We could do more testing domestically. Not only could we open up more testing now, but we could have opened it up weeks ago. We've chosen not to do this. Yes, it is utterly insane.

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I mean, the CEO and the employees are literally part of the free market.

Sure, but he’s saying it wasn’t market forces that motivated them but their sense of civic duty. That is something that “the market” often lacks in their relentless pursuit of shareholder value.

On what fact is he basing it on civic duty? There's literally nothing to support that. They started work on the tests before the disease even arrived in South Korea. It was the CEO reacting to perceived likelihood of future demand for such kits.

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> they could roll out this nebulous private-public partnership drive through testing Realistically, how would you envision tests on this scale being performed? In theory, it’s a great plan. Pretty much everyone in the US is close to a Walmart/CVS/Target. Drive up, get swabbed, check results online. Fast and minimal human interaction. The implementation remains to be seen but I can’t imagine the alternative of having…

How they’re being performed in South Korea or any other country that’s doing tests at scale? American exceptionalism falls apart when countries around the world are outperforming your response.

According to the record by Mark Green from Tennessee, the test that South Korea is using was denied because of inadequacy by the FDA in the USA, and that test will not even be used for emergency purposes.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?470277-1/federal-health-offici...

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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I just finished listening to a veteran virologist give a 2 hour interview. It’s being blown way out of proportion. Nobody under the age of 9 has died, period. Under the age of 30 your mortality probability is vanishingly small. It’s only a threat to people who have a compromised immune system because of age, diabetes or something like that. This is nothing like the Spanish flu. Unlike influenza viruses, these viruses don’t mutate in a way that would cause their recurrence every year. The chances of a more deadly strain popping up are extremely small.

I listened to trump address the nation in the rose garden live today. The npr correspondent confidently said that this virus “isn’t going away.” It’s a flat out lie and hysteria.

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I had a tweet from Flightradar24 show up on my timeline earlier: https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1238102765081186306... It kinda hit me immediately why this whole containment thing wasn't really working out. And this was March 12! How on earth do we tell people to not go outside, but months after it all started there are still thousands of airplanes flying. Honorary mention for the countries that sent milita…

Yeah, it explains why the testing isn't happening as well. Why bother doing surveillance testing if you've already surrendered to a 70% infection rate? There's no point. Better to just let people come to the hospital if they absolutely need to, rather than risk people coming to the ER just because they tested positive. It is possible that Italy has made a mistake in doing as many tests as they have. I'm not sure what…

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Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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it wasn't "the market" that solved this problem. it was the employees, including the ceo, at that company who felt a duty to the rest of the country, not to some market opportunity, that effected the result. bureaucracies, including corporate ones (see: innovator's dilemma), are typically not nimble enough to respond to rapidly changing circumstances. it's not a market vs government (false) dichotomy.

I mean, the CEO and the employees are literally part of the free market.

So is the wild animal trade that introduced the virus? I mean if something is just shorthand for "things people do", it gets credit and blame for a lot of things...

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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I just finished listening to a veteran virologist give a 2 hour interview. It’s being blown way out of proportion. Nobody under the age of 9 has died, period. Under the age of 30 your mortality probability is vanishingly small. It’s only a threat to people who have a compromised immune system because of age, diabetes or something like that. This is nothing like the Spanish flu. Unlike influenza viruses, these viruses…

Would love to see your sources. I’m shocked there are still people like you claiming this is all an overreaction while the smart folk are all bracing for impact.

You gotta get it together man, this is bigger than anything you’ve ever seen in your life. If we’re very lucky it’ll be bad in the coming weeks and months, if we’re not it’ll be much much worse.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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I mean, the CEO and the employees are literally part of the free market.

Sure, but he’s saying it wasn’t market forces that motivated them but their sense of civic duty. That is something that “the market” often lacks in their relentless pursuit of shareholder value.

The market might often lack it, but isn't that simply an untapped resource? After the crisis is done the company can go on claiming how much they did to help far and wide. It's hard to find a better advertisement, especially since it's the company itself that's helping and not just some endorsement from elsewhere.

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There are test kits in the UK, but the same policy applies. Why? Because it no longer matters, the containment effort for individual cases is now over. Now we move on to more mass actions to delay and slow the peak of the epidemic - anyone with symptoms to self isolate for a week, regardless of positive test.

>anyone with symptoms to self isolate for a week, regardless of positive test. In an ideal world we would already be doing this. I know that some people have to show up to work even if they're sick, but even at my job where we have unlimited sick leave, and are encouraged to use it, people still show up coughing and sniffling. I don't get it. If your employer encourages you to work from home when you're sick, and you…

This is a special case of course and I work for a company where we are told to work from home right now regardless of symptoms or not.

However when it comes to the common cold that is something that will be going of for weeks and return several times for some people, just the light symptoms. No fever but some coughing and sneezing.

For some job roles and in some companies with good culture it works great to work home but for a lot you cannot really be home for like 6 weeks every winter because you are missing out too much or are not effective enough.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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I just finished listening to a veteran virologist give a 2 hour interview. It’s being blown way out of proportion. Nobody under the age of 9 has died, period. Under the age of 30 your mortality probability is vanishingly small. It’s only a threat to people who have a compromised immune system because of age, diabetes or something like that. This is nothing like the Spanish flu. Unlike influenza viruses, these viruses…

"It’s only a threat to people who have a compromised immune system because of age, diabetes or something like that."

Yeah forget those people.

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