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South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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The situation in Stockholm, Sweden right now is: “You who have symptoms similar to coronavirus will not be tested in the future. This applies regardless of whether you have been in the areas that were previously exposed to infection or had close contact with someone you know is ill in covid-19.” There are no test kits. Hospitals have run out of face masks. And it’s only just getting started here.

If only Trump did not cut back on CDC funding... Thanks Trump!

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Will Korea sell us tests? Will anyone? Has this been discussed anywhere?

The administration turned away from the German designed/WHO standard tests everyone else is using, so I don’t think any international ones are FDA approved. Today’s presser sure gave me the impression that the delay in testing was so they could roll out this nebulous private-public partnership drive through testing and I guess boost CVS’ stock price or something.

> they could roll out this nebulous private-public partnership drive through testing

Realistically, how would you envision tests on this scale being performed? In theory, it’s a great plan. Pretty much everyone in the US is close to a Walmart/CVS/Target. Drive up, get swabbed, check results online. Fast and minimal human interaction. The implementation remains to be seen but I can’t imagine the alternative of having everyone rush doctor’s offices and hospitals working very well.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yup I have been wondering about this too. If my community has 10 beds and 2 docs what is anyone supposed to do if there are 100 positives? Pick the 10 most likely to develop complications due to age or comorbidity and quarantine the rest so that you don’t get 200 more next week. We’re still in the “stop the bleeding” phase of treatment.

Triage usually dictates that the ones most likely to die from the illness, especially if they're old, get lower priority than those that can be treated at a greater success rate, and who are more likely to live longer and healthier as a result. This is the procedure at most hospitals. You give the beds to those who need them, and are most likely to "make good use" of them (= not "waste" them by likely dying anyway; s…

Sure; the idea is that testing allows officials to make decisions about how best to use the resource you have, both in terms of hospital beds and quarantine.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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post #5

The situation in Stockholm, Sweden right now is: “You who have symptoms similar to coronavirus will not be tested in the future. This applies regardless of whether you have been in the areas that were previously exposed to infection or had close contact with someone you know is ill in covid-19.” There are no test kits. Hospitals have run out of face masks. And it’s only just getting started here.

So... what's the course of action for medical staff?

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Are they cashing in somehow? Or do you mean cashing in in the sense that they have a massive, existential financial interest in this going away as quickly as possible?

Details of the arrangement aren’t clear. They’re stock shot up about ten points after the announcement though.

The stock market as a whole was up 10%.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The administration turned away from the German designed/WHO standard tests everyone else is using, so I don’t think any international ones are FDA approved. Today’s presser sure gave me the impression that the delay in testing was so they could roll out this nebulous private-public partnership drive through testing and I guess boost CVS’ stock price or something.

I think the Trump administration saw the profit $$$ in test kits while ignoring the larger health and economic risks posed by a delay in testing. Now, it is too late and Trump is too thick-sculled to admit he was wrong.

What kind of cartoon villain do you think he is??

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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post #5

The situation in Stockholm, Sweden right now is: “You who have symptoms similar to coronavirus will not be tested in the future. This applies regardless of whether you have been in the areas that were previously exposed to infection or had close contact with someone you know is ill in covid-19.” There are no test kits. Hospitals have run out of face masks. And it’s only just getting started here.

If only Trump did not cut back on CDC funding... Thanks Trump!

If only CDC allowed "non official" tests.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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post #5

The situation in Stockholm, Sweden right now is: “You who have symptoms similar to coronavirus will not be tested in the future. This applies regardless of whether you have been in the areas that were previously exposed to infection or had close contact with someone you know is ill in covid-19.” There are no test kits. Hospitals have run out of face masks. And it’s only just getting started here.

If only Trump did not cut back on CDC funding... Thanks Trump!

He's talking about Sweden...

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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This is striking: "A nation of 51 million, South Korea has tested about 250,000 people since its outbreak began on Jan. 20, with a daily capacity of 15,000. It has conducted 3,600 tests per million people compared to five per million in the U.S."

The credit here doesn't go to South Korea's government but to a company called Seegene and it's CEO Chun Jong-yoon who directed the company to focus on COVID-19 testing on January 16th. They are the reason South Korea's CDC was able to ramp up 118 labs so quickly. It's making about 10,000 test kits a week and has been at the center of South Korea's testing strategy. The market is better at addressing problems than go…

it wasn't "the market" that solved this problem. it was the employees, including the ceo, at that company who felt a duty to the rest of the country, not to some market opportunity, that effected the result.

bureaucracies, including corporate ones (see: innovator's dilemma), are typically not nimble enough to respond to rapidly changing circumstances. it's not a market vs government (false) dichotomy.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Will Korea sell us tests? Will anyone? Has this been discussed anywhere?

The machines for this test are not approved in the US. Secondly even if that was waived, there it the issue of getting the machines here, setting them up and training people in the lab. And the reality is a huge number of countries also want these tests.

I've read however that FDA just approved a new test on Roche lab equipment which many labs already have.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/scott-gottlieb-us-to-conduct...

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