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U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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That's a really good dataset (with a really clunky visualization, but hey!) Indeed. There are typically above 3000 deaths/week due to Pneumonia and 200/week due to influenza at this time of year. We had a smallish spike in mid-late January, where for 3 consecutive weeks, deaths were above trend at nearly 4000 & 400 per week. If you assume a 1% mortality rate for COVID, and you assume all deaths are due to pneumonia,…

If you are in ICU with flu symptoms, they don't just shrug when the rapid influenza test comes back negative. There are reflex tests that can be run to confirm positive or negative.

Yep.

Critical cases and fatal cases are way more likely to be detected for this reason -- but during the 3 weeks I was talking about, it was believed that there was no COVID in the US, except for folks evacuated from China to quarantine sites.

During that time unexplained pneumonia leading to death -- especially in an older individual -- would likely not have been thought to be COVID, and would just have gone on the books as pneumonia.

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My personal theory is that someone in the executive branch wanted to secure an exclusive contract for a personal friend. Something similar happened in the first few months of the Kuwait oil fires, with certain american fire fighting firms being given exclusive contracts to fight the fires, despite lacking the technology and expertise to extinguish them. But I'm just a cynical man. It could very well be something else…

> exclusive contract for a personal friend Similarly in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria, a politically connected one-man "energy company" called Whitefish, with no experience or skills, emerged out of nowhere and was given the contracts to rebuild the entire Puerto Rican grid. Months later nothing had happened other than he hired a few people as unskilled as himself who were just dorking around down there, while pe…

Whitefish was getting stuff done. It was more than one man. It had the needed skill, which was subcontracting. Whitefish got numerous teams operational in Puerto Rico before being yanked off the job by politics.

The whole story of Whitefish being unqualified is just corrupt politics. Subcontracting is a legitimate way to get the work done.

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From what I've read, China tries to get people to go grocery shopping only once per week. They are the only ones who appear to manage to get the infection rate from 1.3x down to 0.3x in the past days.

Interesting. Once a week was status quo in the suburb I grew up in (west of Chicago), is that not normal elsewhere?

We buy milk and bread almost daily.

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You’re describing a typical SIR model (susceptible infected recovered) which can be solved analytically. You can see the dependence on all those points you mentioned above. Note this is a “mean-field” model (everyone evenly mixed together) so take it with a grain of salt...

That's what I was trying to do. I thought it would be interesting to build one and play with it. The issue with it being a mean model vs a mixes contact model noted.

Both of these models are well studied and compared in the literature

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Just because CV19 is a thing now doesn’t mean the US magically has Medicare for all.

So in your mind, Medicare for all only covers covid 19? Because that's what I'm talking about. Covering treatment for the once in a hundred years pandemic. Clearly, even that's too much for our shitty, decaying American society. In the meantime every other developed nation has a proper healthcare system while we can barely test for this due to our incompetence and shit leaders.

Woah dude, slow your roll. I was saying M4A doesn't exist in the states at this time so, insurers will still expect payment if you get treated. That's all I'm saying.

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Then perhaps the people saying that have different purposes. Which I'm sure was dlp211's point as well.

Sure, but I’m not obliged to give any deference to improper purposes like delegitimization of the President.

I never claimed that he is illegitimate. Shame on you for not taking my argument in good faith.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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To reiterate what others said, it is long past containment in the United States. In Canada early on the cases were people who came from known hot spots. Now it is almost entirely people coming from the United States, from places with no known cases. Clearly there are clusters throughout the United States. Unconfirmed, unrecognized clusters. And with the adversity of many to utilizing health care, it seems impossible…

I think elementary/high schools are how this will spread through communities with the most efficiency. Collect a person from each family, mix them together with the poorest respect for hygiene, then send them home, 5 times a week. Here's the perspective of a San Jose public high school [1] proving that containment isn't a concern: > Oak Grove High School officials said they were not considering school closures becaus…

Correction: The bay area schools have shut down for 3 weeks. :)

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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It's entirely appropriate to tell the chef he's about to cut off his thumb. You're not an expert and you're spouting xenophobic bullshit. Take the L.

Which would be relevant in a discussion about technique. Murder and knife crime discussions would not be. A knife can be used for those things, but when discussing knives in cooking it makes no sense to talk about those topics. Likewise in a discussion wherein the example of the farmer trying to protect the herd from a predator by closing the fence after the predator is already inside the farm - it is not the selecti…

Fun fact: Rand Paul today is calling undocumented persons requesting COVID-19 assistance "non-persons."

See what dehumanizing analogies results in? Congratulations.

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