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Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by jrockway » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 6:39 PM UTC

ugh wrote: post #48

jrockway wrote: post #45

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Well, they don't sell Android phones. The carriers do. Google benefits from you doing Google searches on the phones, which is unaffected by this. Basically, Google has no incentive to fix this bug, but the people complaining about it do. So they should do the fixing if they actually want it fixed. (Technically, the OEM or carriers should fix this bug, and they are probably working on it Behind The Scenes.)

I know that Google doesn’t sell phones and you know very well that I know that. Don’t patronize me. Your opinion seems to truly be that you can expect no reliable help from Google when you encounter a bug in Android which is pretty mind-blowing to me. I don’t think that Google is quiet so deaf.

This makes sense to me. The carriers are supposed to be giving you support. It's like the Windows that comes bundled with your laptop; you can't call Microsoft for support, you have to call the OEM. Same for Android phones.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by runjake » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 6:58 PM UTC

bobds wrote: post #24

DrJokepu wrote: post #20

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I really don't think that the "if you're not happy about a bug, fix it or shut up" mentality in open source projects is very helpful. Obviously solving issues like this is considerably more difficult and time consuming than complaining about them and many people complaining about them don't have the time and/or skills to solve them. However, they are real, existing issues that bother users and not complaining about t…

I think that part of jrockway's point is that at least some of the people complaining on a bug tracker, have the skills to help.

It seemed more like he was trolling to me.

Everyone who complained on this bug paid for Android as a commercial product.

I may be a master Linux debugger, but I'm not about to debug every little appliance/automobile issue I have because there's a bug in it's embedded Linux subsystem.

I never thought I'd see the day when people would use OSS as a defense for a commercial product not getting fixed. Especially when I suspect that the component involved isn't actually open source.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by shimi » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:15 PM UTC

That's the fun about Android, its a real mass market open OS and all the bugs are visible!!! Too bad its not for everyone to fix (or maybe its actually good?)

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by bherms » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:30 PM UTC

They should probably fix this. Last week, the girl I've been dating, who I'm incidentally crazy about, admitted via text she was in love with me...

... I never replied because I didn't get the message.

She definitely felt awkward for a while when I saw her, wondering why I had chosen to just ignore that specific text.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by mcantor » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:43 PM UTC

andrewfurman wrote: post #16

If you have an android phone and aren't using Google Voice, you are truly missing out.

Google Voice is an unusable mess. I've literally never missed a vanilla SMS, but Google Voice regularly delivers them hours or even days late.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by HelloBeautiful » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:44 PM UTC

MichaelApproved wrote: post #47

VMG wrote: post #35

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The problem is that nobody from google seems to read these bug reports.

No, the problem is google doesn't make enough money off android to devote more resources to the project. Droid has more technical issues (supporting more platforms) than iPhone but generates less profit. That formula inevitably leads to less development resources and a worse product.

Right, and Symbian is the best mobile platform because Nokia has invested the most 'development resources' in it.

Also if you add all the open source developers of things like the Linux kernel, Android has way more ppl working ot it compared to iOS.

Just the term 'developer resources' shows you know very little about software development.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by HelloBeautiful » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:46 PM UTC

mfontani wrote: post #18

andrewfurman wrote: post #16

If you have an android phone and aren't using Google Voice, you are truly missing out.

Not everybody is in the USA :(

What is stopping you from telling some Goolge form you are from USA? Many companies offer free US numbers over VOIP, that you can use during registration.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by sssparkkk » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:53 PM UTC

bherms wrote: post #54

They should probably fix this. Last week, the girl I've been dating, who I'm incidentally crazy about, admitted via text she was in love with me... ... I never replied because I didn't get the message. She definitely felt awkward for a while when I saw her, wondering why I had chosen to just ignore that specific text.

I'm often amazed by how quickly things get messed up if a single message is dropped from a conversation. People really expect communication channels like these to never fail.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by MHordecki » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 7:57 PM UTC

HelloBeautiful wrote: post #57

mfontani wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everybody is in the USA :(

What is stopping you from telling some Goolge form you are from USA? Many companies offer free US numbers over VOIP, that you can use during registration.

For starters, GV provides USA phone numbers, so all your friends would suddenly face substantial roaming charges.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by bherms » Wed, Feb 23, 2011, 8:02 PM UTC

sssparkkk wrote: post #58

bherms wrote: post #54

They should probably fix this. Last week, the girl I've been dating, who I'm incidentally crazy about, admitted via text she was in love with me... ... I never replied because I didn't get the message. She definitely felt awkward for a while when I saw her, wondering why I had chosen to just ignore that specific text.

I'm often amazed by how quickly things get messed up if a single message is dropped from a conversation. People really expect communication channels like these to never fail.

I'm starting to understand that things will always potentially fail... But when you're paying over $100/month for service on a device that you paid $200+ for, I think you have the right to expect it to work.

They need to fix this or come up with a new method that pings back to a server when successfully received to signal success. (or something along these lines)