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Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Oh so many moons ago I had a similar defect to fix on a phone I was working on. The defect was causing a type approval failure and we had to fix it before the phone was going to be type approved.

Type approval must be a walk over these days as long as you have a flash UI.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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post #23

This is one of the examples where I'm concerned about my own professionality because i can't grasp why Google would overlook such an error for such a long time. Maybe there is a reason but my feeble mind can't bend around it?

Easily reproducible doesn't equal easily fixed.

It is very nearly so. I would estimate that over 99% of bugs that I can reproduce in a debugger are fixable (at least at the level of a work-around that takes the pain away) in a single day.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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post #25

Because of the high quality of iOS and it's large market reach, Android development had to be rushed a great deal. This caused most of the programming power to go towards developing base features (android 1.x - 2.x) or implementing tablet features when the iPad arrived, and almost no resources were left for developers support (the emulators are awfully slow, severe lack of animations framework, etc...) and for bug fi…

"Once things start to settle down"

Ah right, when Apple stops innovating, then?

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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post #22

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appears not to have been fixed yet by Google Or by anyone whining on the bug tracker who say this issue is ruining their life.

So, you have to be able to fix bugs in Android if you want to use it? I somehow doubt that Google wants to sell Android phones only to the 20 million developers in the world who could (theoretically) fix bugs.

Well, they don't sell Android phones. The carriers do. Google benefits from you doing Google searches on the phones, which is unaffected by this.

Basically, Google has no incentive to fix this bug, but the people complaining about it do. So they should do the fixing if they actually want it fixed.

(Technically, the OEM or carriers should fix this bug, and they are probably working on it Behind The Scenes.)

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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post #38

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appears not to have been fixed yet by Google Or by anyone whining on the bug tracker who say this issue is ruining their life.

Android development is done only by Google. When they're ready, they release a new version along with its source code.

Have you tried sending them a patch? They accept them.

There are also a number of third-party Android distributions (CyanogenMod, etc.) that accept patches and do nightly releases.

If there is a bug in Android, and it is "ruining your life", it's your fault for not fixing it.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Just treat it as "+1 I'm affected too". Could be written better, but it at least shows the number of people affected / annoyed by specific bug.

The problem is that nobody from google seems to read these bug reports.

No, the problem is google doesn't make enough money off android to devote more resources to the project. Droid has more technical issues (supporting more platforms) than iPhone but generates less profit. That formula inevitably leads to less development resources and a worse product.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, you have to be able to fix bugs in Android if you want to use it? I somehow doubt that Google wants to sell Android phones only to the 20 million developers in the world who could (theoretically) fix bugs.

Well, they don't sell Android phones. The carriers do. Google benefits from you doing Google searches on the phones, which is unaffected by this. Basically, Google has no incentive to fix this bug, but the people complaining about it do. So they should do the fixing if they actually want it fixed. (Technically, the OEM or carriers should fix this bug, and they are probably working on it Behind The Scenes.)

I know that Google doesn’t sell phones and you know very well that I know that. Don’t patronize me.

Your opinion seems to truly be that you can expect no reliable help from Google when you encounter a bug in Android which is pretty mind-blowing to me. I don’t think that Google is quiet so deaf.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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post #23

This is one of the examples where I'm concerned about my own professionality because i can't grasp why Google would overlook such an error for such a long time. Maybe there is a reason but my feeble mind can't bend around it?

Easily reproducible doesn't equal easily fixed.

Depends on your idea of fixed, I suppose. You can band-aid it in five minutes: append a message to the Low Space Notification that SMS messages will be queued.

Really fixing it would require something more intelligent about the way Android handles space, such as reserving an amount of the internal memory for "critical" applications, or moving caches to SD card. The reason caches aren't on the SD card, I believe, is something philosophical at Google. They're holding onto the belief that people actually swap them with some regularity, rather than using them as user-expandable internal storage. Why Browser should merrily suck up an 80MB cache on my tiny internal memory is beyond me.

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