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Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

metageek wrote: post #8
hollerith wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, uh, the organization Google and its employees keep buzzing along whether or not the problem gets fixed because although Android is a significant part of Google's long-term strategy , Android is not a significant part of Google's current revenue stream. For all the hate Apple has been getting over the last year here, Apple's incentive structure is more closely aligned with the people who buy and use their hardwa…

In July of last year Google announced that Android had made them over a billion dollars in Q2.

Did they support that with anything in terms of how they'd arrived at that number?

I'm guessing it's based on additional ad revenue driven by mobile searches but there are a lot of variables in there which would be open to debate and I'd be really interested in seeing their working.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by sssparkkk »

frankdenbow wrote: post #9

Related: I've had all of my SMS messages deleted 3 times on my HTC Incredible from this bug: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5669

Wow, that's really bad as well. However, that particular bug appears to be rather difficult to reproduce, so I can understand why they haven't been able to address it yet.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by Roritharr »

hollerith wrote: post #7
Roritharr wrote: post #5

This is one of the examples where I'm concerned about my own professionality because i can't grasp why Google would overlook such an error for such a long time. Maybe there is a reason but my feeble mind can't bend around it?

Well, uh, the organization Google and its employees keep buzzing along whether or not the problem gets fixed because although Android is a significant part of Google's long-term strategy , Android is not a significant part of Google's current revenue stream. For all the hate Apple has been getting over the last year here, Apple's incentive structure is more closely aligned with the people who buy and use their hardwa…

So your point being that Googles Software aside from AdSense should be in general more defective because their incentive structure isn't as well aligned?

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by blub »

metageek wrote: post #8
hollerith wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, uh, the organization Google and its employees keep buzzing along whether or not the problem gets fixed because although Android is a significant part of Google's long-term strategy , Android is not a significant part of Google's current revenue stream. For all the hate Apple has been getting over the last year here, Apple's incentive structure is more closely aligned with the people who buy and use their hardwa…

In July of last year Google announced that Android had made them over a billion dollars in Q2.

Since they don't sell Android to consumers, that billion was made of licensing fees from Hardware makers + ads + Android market revenue. These will bring in revenue even if SMS doesn't work and SMS is not essential for them.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by imrehg »

Could there be a common root to this issue, and that the phone stop syncing emails when the "low storage" warning comes on? No more incoming or outgoing emails, not even the manual "come on darn phone get my message" button does it. For me the warning kicks in around 14.85 MB (hit it so many times).

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Post by reitzensteinm »

blub wrote: post #14
metageek wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In July of last year Google announced that Android had made them over a billion dollars in Q2.

Since they don't sell Android to consumers, that billion was made of licensing fees from Hardware makers + ads + Android market revenue. These will bring in revenue even if SMS doesn't work and SMS is not essential for them.

I'm not sure I see your point. While this bug alone will not be enough to hurt Android adoption, enough quality issues stacked up certainly will.

The buffer that they are given because of manufacturer QA and patching will only go so far.

Re: Ever missed an SMS on your Android? Here's why. (long-standing bug)

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Post by DrJokepu »

jrockway wrote: post #10
sssparkkk wrote: post #2

tl;dr version: having the 'low space' warning on your Android phone results in the rejection of SMS messages. Even when there's actually e.g. >10mb of storage available. The bug has been present since 2009 and appears not to have been fixed yet by Google.

appears not to have been fixed yet by Google Or by anyone whining on the bug tracker who say this issue is ruining their life.

I really don't think that the "if you're not happy about a bug, fix it or shut up" mentality in open source projects is very helpful. Obviously solving issues like this is considerably more difficult and time consuming than complaining about them and many people complaining about them don't have the time and/or skills to solve them. However, they are real, existing issues that bother users and not complaining about them will not make them magically go away. This, over time, can lead to the alienation of the users and can seriously hurt the project.
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