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As if European countries worked differently...
Are there any presidential republics in Europe?
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My point is that medical staff are trained to respond to many things. Training newbies to respond to one thing would probably be easy and fast. Especially if most people just need fluids, oxygen, and aspirin. Burning out doctors to maximize survival rates up front is... bad
If all you needed is something that a person with no training could handle they’d send you home and have a family member care for you.
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Ok, so you suggest every single person in Germany to be quarantined. Whether they have symptoms or not. Now that's what I call an over reaction.
Well, let's just wait for a million dead like they expect in Italy then... that would be a proper, timid, reaction...
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Please, stop throwing around totally fake numbers like that.
Italy has a population of 60 million. The WHO reports "Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died". If 50% the population gets infected, and if it's not 3.4% but "just" 3% mortality rate, that's already 1 million dead. And according to some experts, even 70% infection rate is predicted. Second, this 3.4% percentage of deceased patients, is at the early stages, with fewer patients and preventive measure…
But ok, the source is your own calculations. Thanks for confirming.
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Completely random and off-topic. I'm in the US and used to 12-hour time. I personally prefer 24-hour time, and am comfortable with 18:00 or similar for a time indicator. I don't know that I've ever seen a 24-hour time with am/pm attached to it. Is this common?
To feed off your random comment, I live in the US as well but switched all of my clocks (that I was able to) over to 24-hour time a few years ago. It just makes more sense to me. But everybody around me thinks I'm some sort of weirdo for it.
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Are there any presidential republics in Europe?
That's not the point. Every modern country ends up working the same in practice, whatever the bureaucracy is and whatever the president/prime minister/king/queen legally wields more or less power.
That's not even true of just stable democracies, much less every country. In fact, the differences in practice have been satisfied quite a bit.
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I think this is far too optimistic. 1. We don't know the actual reality of what's happening on the ground in China. Hubei and Italy have approximately the same population, yet Italy is suffering more proportionally. I think the obvious explanation is drastic underreporting of cases and fatalities in China. When all is said and done I think China probably has underreported by at least a magnitude if not double that. 2…
And I think your assessment is too pessimistic. To address (1.) You and others are going to have to provide sources for why you think that China "probably has under-reported by at least a magnitude if not double that". I've seen the ill feeling and distrust towards China increase on HN and elsewhere in the last 5 years and this fits the bill. You can explain the differences between Hubei and Italy by the differences…
I have no ill feeling towards China other than the fact that they have a repressive, authoritarian government. Those types of government necessarily try to control and spin the news to maintain their authority. If a country is willing to censor Winnie the Pooh to make their leader feel better, than they'll naturally minimize the effect of SARS-Cov2.
I also agree that the US is underreporting due to inadequate testing. Estimates in the US should be closer to 9-10K. I think that we'll see a large spike in cases as soon as testing approaches levels in other countries.
My inclination regarding quarantine controls in Western countries stems from the willingness of these societies to restrict freedoms. Italy's quarantine is very basic, a 1 on a 1-10 level. Compared to what China implemented, it's not even close.
Soap isn't the ability to treat cases; it's a way of trying to mitigate the spread.
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In Germany a friend of mine refused to go to a meeting at a client's office where someone tested positive and HR threatened him because he was violating his employment contract.
Am in Germany. Everyone is acting like nothing is happening. It's infuriating.
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As if European countries worked differently...
Are there any presidential republics in Europe?
Yes, but more semipresidențial systems.
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Honestly we are more careful with cattle and pets, than with people. It's going to be hard to change the entitled attitudes. Nobody can stop me from visiting anywhere I want!
It's going to be hard but if Italy is any guide we will manage it after it becomes a catastrophe.