Occasions are rare where I get to say "hey, I built a thing that might help here!" - so forgive me as I take this opportunity with both hands. Whether this was a bug or a rare protective mechanisme, there will be times when your DNS provider makes a mistake and removes records. You mentioned in your post your DNS isn't hard to reproduce, but how certain are you that _all_ records are restored? How long do you have to…
Cloudflare silently deleted my DNS records
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We used ns1 at my last job, they were indeed great to us. We moved from self-hosting DNS because the DNS servers would randomly become unresponsive and would start returning fake records. After switching to ns1 and getting our first bill, we realized that a lot of our network equipment apparently did a DNS lookup for every log line. This resulted in an exceedingly large bill, which ns1 happily reversed (we did fix ou…
I thought self-hosting DNS would be easy, since it is 40 year old tech now. Even now, like you, I get the occasional (ie. once per year) named segfaults or it randomly stops responding over TCP. Few SaaS products are less effort than one reboot per year, but still worth it IMO.
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I looked into self-hosting DNS and it doesn't seem like that big of a deal as long as you can ensure uptime to be honest. If you set up the two first on different hosts and possibly have #3/4 being cloud providers I think you're pretty good. Does anyone here have experience with running their own DNS servers for their domains?
You don't even need multiple servers (especially if both your website and mail run on the same server), it's a misconception debunked by the author of djbdns: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/third-party.html
Re: Cloudflare silently deleted my DNS records
#364Occasions are rare where I get to say "hey, I built a thing that might help here!" - so forgive me as I take this opportunity with both hands. Whether this was a bug or a rare protective mechanisme, there will be times when your DNS provider makes a mistake and removes records. You mentioned in your post your DNS isn't hard to reproduce, but how certain are you that _all_ records are restored? How long do you have to…
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Then I'd like to know the CEO's opinion then.
It's hard to understand criticism when it is not put into words. From my perspective, a developer from the company the article is about arrives in the comment section. I ask an honest question about the communication process internal to the company. I am told this developer is the CTO and is supervised by the CEO. Then I state the fact that I would appreciate if we also knew what the CEO thinks about this situation.…
Cloudflare is a solid company with a good reputation and has done a lot for general welfare of the internet. The staff there generally care about customers and it seems like they're trying to figure out what went wrong here, and of course preventing negative PR is always a bonus.
There's really not much of a process when you're a top officer at a company, you have the freedom and responsibility to exercise your judgement and do whatever it takes for the good of the organization.
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#366This is being looked into internally and I am involved. Likely won’t post an update here as it pertains to a customer account (unless customer agrees). BTW If you, dear reader, ever find yourself so frustrated with Cloudflare that you feel like your only recourse is a blog post... my email is jgc@cloudflare.com and I’m happy to hear from people.
I've put this idea forward a number of times here on HN in regards to other big tech companies. Technology companies need an "ombudsman" - a contact that customers can go to when the normal tech support processes have failed. The Ombudsman must not be part of the technology companies ordinary support processes, it must be entirely separate, and have highest level authority to demand action within the company. To avoi…
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> if there's no cost to the company to ignore the customer Simplifying, that's "if (false)", since ignoring the customers in the limit gets you a failed business and bankruptcy.
For the non-enterprise user, isn't this the scenario established today, with no failed business?
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#368good idea
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> if there's no cost to the company to ignore the customer Simplifying, that's "if (false)", since ignoring the customers in the limit gets you a failed business and bankruptcy.
not if you have a monopoly. Which is why customer support for most ISPs in the US is so abysmal. And even if it is just a sufficiently large company, if the customer is not a large payer and the issue is non-trivial to solve, the the cost of losing that customer could very well be less than the cost of fixing the issue.
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I do wonder; when a domain is suspended, why don't you send out a courtesy notification e-mail?
what if their email address is @ the domain