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Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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Do you have a source for this? Either English or Chinese can will do. Thanks.

Reuters (English) https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/... CNA (Chinese) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cna.com.tw/amp/news/firstne...

Thanks, all the best from Hong Kong.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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My wife is mainland Chinese, and she has been saying that it a worse than what the government is saying. Also, since Li Wenliang died, well, frankly a lot of people are pissed at the CCP. Anyway, I feel like it’ll be an epidemic ( it already is, I believe ) in China, and be much better controlled outside of China. Unfortunately my wife is also stuck in Chongqing; Taiwan is essentially closing up its borders and we do…

I don’t understand what it is that the Chinese authorities are supposedly misreporting?

The mortality rate of 2% is consistent with the number of cases and deaths reported by other countries.

Is it that there are a large number of undiagnosed cases? That is kind of a given and is probably also the case in other countries.

The timespan between first case and until it gets reported to who and quarantines start is less than a month. To me that seems very fast (but I am just a layperson).

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. That is so rough, especially since some healthcare workers are now among the dead: specifically, I saw that Li Wenliang had died. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-doctor-w...

> "Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless." The absolute definition of heroes. It blows my mind to imagine ever having that sort of selfless dedication to helping others. For all the crappy things in the world these days, it's stuff like this that gives me hope for humanity.

> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless.

This was one of the most tragic things in that article.

The doctors, nurses, and health workers are the front line soldiers in this fight against the virus. And they don’t have the protective gear that they need to stay safe, and to keep the population safe, as well as the rest of the world.

I hope they can fight the infection, and survive, and live to fight another day. We need them!

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. That is so rough, especially since some healthcare workers are now among the dead: specifically, I saw that Li Wenliang had died. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-doctor-w...

Last thing the CCP needs is martyrs against the state

Easily solved by turning him into a state hero.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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Look, you say inflammatory response science says steroids. But what about CBD? Maybe even THC? Let’s experiment at least,

I always found a shot of straight whisky was good for a cold.

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Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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> I've been scouring the darker corners of the internet obsessively for every seemingly reputable bit of data under the assumption that virtually anything official out of China could not be trusted. I do the same. If you can read Chinese, I strongly recommend you read Sina Weibo, a micro-blogging social media in China, or Toutiao. Read them quickly before posts are inevitably deleted by the censors. There are some tr…

Can you grab and translate and share some of these please? Also, do you have any opinion on this: https://i.redd.it/88osl54prjf41.png

They are still burning pigs en masse due to swine plague.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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Even in Communist China, people are turned away from hospitals due to inability to pay for treatment...that’s the worst irony I have ever heard. This disease is virulent and unpredictable. A 34 year old doctor died. 12 hospitals are being built at breakneck speed. This will become endemic at this rate. Either we create a vaccine or we each roll the dice on acquired immunity and too many people die in the process. It…

> Even in Communist China, people are turned away from hospitals due to inability to pay for treatment...that’s the worst irony I have ever heard. If you had read the whole article you would have learnt that treatment is free for those affected. > It is time to be concerned. Concerned sure, alarmed no, like your post seems to tend towards.

It became free the day after the person already died for lack of funds for treatment. Very very sad case.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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post #173

My wife is mainland Chinese, and she has been saying that it a worse than what the government is saying. Also, since Li Wenliang died, well, frankly a lot of people are pissed at the CCP. Anyway, I feel like it’ll be an epidemic ( it already is, I believe ) in China, and be much better controlled outside of China. Unfortunately my wife is also stuck in Chongqing; Taiwan is essentially closing up its borders and we do…

I don’t understand what it is that the Chinese authorities are supposedly misreporting? The mortality rate of 2% is consistent with the number of cases and deaths reported by other countries. Is it that there are a large number of undiagnosed cases? That is kind of a given and is probably also the case in other countries. The timespan between first case and until it gets reported to who and quarantines start is less…

Presumably they could be under-reporting the number of infections and the number of deaths, to keep the mortality rate consistent.

I don't know why they would do that, but they are accused of doing this kind of thing frequently.

If they sat on the news of the virus for an extended period they might have known the mortality rate they needed to align with long before the rest us.

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I submitted this already, but this is worth reading also: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/confere...

He's the expert, and I'm not. But I can do math. Influenza this year in the US: 19M infected and 10K fatalities. If you posit 1% mortality rate for coronavirus like he argues, that's 20 times more deadly. And it's twice that in China, it's unclear if that's a statistical anomaly or a structural feature of some difference in how things are tested/reported in China. So I'm not going to just shrug and say it's no big de…

> But I can do math.

> We're at 2^15 and doubling every 5 days. If that keeps up for a month we'll be at 1M infected and 16K dead.

Obligatory: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png

This is also math. But it’s not the way things work.

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