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First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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As someone who takes regular flights on planes I find this disturbing.

Wearing an N95 mask and washing your hands properly will prevent the overwhelming majority of transmission. Could someone still sneeze in your eye? Sure. Could you wear your mask improperly because you haven't been fit tested, yeah. But you sure can reduce your risk a lot.

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#52
post #37
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A more polite way of saying it would be along the lines of: We're in trouble if a real crisis hits where we depend on leadership to be intelligent, truthful, and have our best interests as a country at heart.

Not sure we can blame the current leadership for the last 30+ years of issues. That said our current govt will surely follow the path to the most profit for big pharma. Of that I have no doubt.

I'm just reporting on the gist of what was said, that our current leadership is not up to the challenge of something really serious.

I mean... it's hard to disagree. This is the guy who rants about windmill cancer, stared directly at the sun during the eclipse and thinks Article II of the constitution allows him to do "whatever he wants".

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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They suspected a man in Australia of having it and were awaiting test results yesterdayish too https://www.smh.com.au/national/first-australian-monitored-f... There is also /r/China_Flu/ for those that wanta centralized location for news. I think this is certainly not a great thing but I urge people not to panic. Any time some sort of new disease starts to spread a portion of the population immediately overreacts and…

I wish wearing hospital masks was more accepted. Out of the listed reactions, it's probably the least overreaction possible, especially if it's a fashionable one and not actually hospital color...

I wear one everytime I fly (which is 8-10 times a month on average) and I just don‘t care about the reactions. Also, keep your bare hands the hell away from your eyes and nose.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

#54
post #36

As someone who takes regular flights on planes I find this disturbing.

Wearing an N95 mask and washing your hands properly will prevent the overwhelming majority of transmission. Could someone still sneeze in your eye? Sure. Could you wear your mask improperly because you haven't been fit tested, yeah. But you sure can reduce your risk a lot.

I just googled N95: I have a bunch of those in my toolshed! They look ominous. :) But I have 12 flights in the next 5 weeks from US to Europe to Israel so I may have to risk looking like a weirdo.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

#55

They suspected a man in Australia of having it and were awaiting test results yesterdayish too https://www.smh.com.au/national/first-australian-monitored-f... There is also /r/China_Flu/ for those that wanta centralized location for news. I think this is certainly not a great thing but I urge people not to panic. Any time some sort of new disease starts to spread a portion of the population immediately overreacts and…

I wish wearing hospital masks was more accepted. Out of the listed reactions, it's probably the least overreaction possible, especially if it's a fashionable one and not actually hospital color...

I always thought wearing hospital masks was for infected people, not the other way around.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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post #40
post #17

I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one. Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.

Maybe it‘s like acid rain - the scare is keeping it from becoming what it could potentially be. And at some point there will definitely be a major pandemic.

define “major pandemic”. By % of humans affected the trend was very clearly towards almost 0.

By absolute number of people affected it also has been trending down since around 1900 despite the population growth

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post #42
post #13

Coronaviruses are transmitted in what seems to be the same manner as influenza and generate some of the same symptoms. Why do the worst coronaviruses, like SARS, transmit so slowly, while the flu is practically ubiquitous?

While SARS does have a longer incubation period, typically 2-7 days compared to the common flu's 1-4 days, the "slow transmission" that you've witnessed is more likely the successful work of national and international public health agencies preventing its spread. Especially by means of contact tracing and quarantine. Seasonal flu variants have a lethality of around 0.1%. The Spanish flu of 1918 was around 2%. SARS ha…

Just according to superficial stats, it looks like the flu kills orders of magnitude more people than SARS and MERS. Is the public health response to these diseases really so effective as to account for most of this difference? I don't pay close attention but also wouldn't off the top of my head be able to describe anything that, say, Washington State does to effectively respond to CoV incidents to keep it from propagating rapidly through the population the way the flu does.

(I'm asking because I'm curious and seriously have no clue how this stuff works).

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish wearing hospital masks was more accepted. Out of the listed reactions, it's probably the least overreaction possible, especially if it's a fashionable one and not actually hospital color...

I've read such conflicting information on them. Some sources say they protect other people from you more than they do you, some say they protect you 60-80%, some say washing your hands properly (and frequently) is more effective etc.

Even if the mask doesn't actually protect you, it will prevent you from touching your face and mouth absent-mindlessly.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

#59
post #36

As someone who takes regular flights on planes I find this disturbing.

Wearing an N95 mask and washing your hands properly will prevent the overwhelming majority of transmission. Could someone still sneeze in your eye? Sure. Could you wear your mask improperly because you haven't been fit tested, yeah. But you sure can reduce your risk a lot.

> Could you wear your mask improperly because you haven't been fit tested, yeah.

It is next to impossible to wear an N95 mask correctly.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

#60
post #17

I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one. Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.

Recessions happen somewhat cyclically because imbalances build up in the economy that ultimately cause some sort of dislocation.

The same is not true in virology. There is no "pent up" mechanism that needs to periodically release an outbreak.

It is entirely random and in these types of outbreaks simply becomes more likely when many animal species exist in close proximity, allowing virus cross-over. It's no coincidence this happened in a live animal market.

One exception to cyclic nature is immunity. In cases where the same disease outbreaks because the human population is no longer immune - ie the Black Death which returned every couple generations in the old world. ...but that phenomenon only applies to SAME disease returning - not different ones.

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