I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one. Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.
Don't forget Ebola scare as well.
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#33A traveler from China landing on US soil, and detected at the airport (Seattle). This isn't spreading in the US population... yet. (And won't be from this, if containment procedures in Seattle work... and if they didn't transmit it to others on the plane... and maybe a few other ifs.)
According to the Washington Post[0], it wasn't caught at the airport, and he isn't a traveller, he is a resident in the Seattle area returning from China. > Washington state health officials said the man, a resident of Snohomish County, Wash., returned from a trip to the region around Wuhan, where the outbreak began. He arrived at Seattle’s international airport last Wednesday. Shortly afterward, he began feeling ill…
Hmm. The Reuters article says the same. Either it was updated, or I misread it.
So... yeah. Maybe not so contained.
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Let's not make this about Trump, at least not just yet, shall we?
Since it was flagged, can you tell me how they were trying to blame Trump for this?
A more polite way of saying it would be along the lines of:
We're in trouble if a real crisis hits where we depend on leadership to be intelligent, truthful, and have our best interests as a country at heart.
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#35They suspected a man in Australia of having it and were awaiting test results yesterdayish too https://www.smh.com.au/national/first-australian-monitored-f... There is also /r/China_Flu/ for those that wanta centralized location for news. I think this is certainly not a great thing but I urge people not to panic. Any time some sort of new disease starts to spread a portion of the population immediately overreacts and…
I wish wearing hospital masks was more accepted. Out of the listed reactions, it's probably the least overreaction possible, especially if it's a fashionable one and not actually hospital color...
If you're sick or believe you may be sick and can't simply isolate yourself at home, then definitely wear one. I see folks wear them occasionally though its second best compared to just staying home and resting.
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#36As someone who takes regular flights on planes I find this disturbing.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since it was flagged, can you tell me how they were trying to blame Trump for this?
A more polite way of saying it would be along the lines of: We're in trouble if a real crisis hits where we depend on leadership to be intelligent, truthful, and have our best interests as a country at heart.
Not sure we can blame the current leadership for the last 30+ years of issues.
That said our current govt will surely follow the path to the most profit for big pharma. Of that I have no doubt.
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#38I read on Reddit that Chinese New Year is the largest regularly occurring human migration event in the world. Millions of Chinese people gather on public transport and planes To go home to celebrate. It’s in a few days I think.
Also I’m not sure how the CDC is preparing for this under 45, but given the state of the federal government I would guess it’s less prepared than the days of the Ebola scare.
Hopefully things will not be too interesting. I hate it when things are interesting.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some communites escaped the Spanish Flu via isolation: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181023-the-places-that-... “No one came in and no one came out. Schools were closed and there were no public gatherings. We came up with the term ‘protective sequestration’, where a defined and healthy group of people are shielded from the risk of infection from outsiders.”
Can we agree that a small (or very remote) village being sequestered in 1918 is not the same as a large nation enacting a travel ban in 2020? Humans now have the ability to travel much greater distances at much greater speeds. That makes it a lot harder to sequester large groups of people. The long borders to the north and south make it nearly impossible to completely shut down US inflow.
"Humans now have the ability to travel much greater distances at much greater speeds. That makes it a lot harder to sequester large groups of people."
Most people travel through authorized checkpoints, and such authorized travel can be easily stopped, delayed, or restricted. That would be likely to be effective at greatly reducing most, though some desperate people could still try to get through by other means. But at least it'll stop the casual travellers and those not willing to take great risks to get through.
"The long borders to the north and south make it nearly impossible to completely shut down US inflow."
But one does not need to completely shut down US inflow to make a significant difference or slow down the progress of the pandemic to give more time for governments and health agencies to react.
It's likely that governments will be slow to react, and not take the problem seriously enough until it becomes too big to stop. Fast, early, decisive action is critical in containing such outbreaks.
That said, I have read health experts say that shutting down borders won't be effective at stopping pandemics.
The most effective thing (once this pandemic is over) is focusing on prevention of future pandemics, through much greater investment in public health, poverty-reduction measures, reduction of factory farming, research, and education. It's the lack of commitment to such measures that lead to greater risks of pandemics and lack of effectiveness against them.
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#40I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one. Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.
Maybe it‘s like acid rain - the scare is keeping it from becoming what it could potentially be.
And at some point there will definitely be a major pandemic.