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Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by Marsymars » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:44 PM UTC

JNRowe wrote: post #126

HenryBemis wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the BBC podcasts are ad-free, but I get them from within the UK. I am not sure if they have ads if served in other countries.

Hmm, at what point do all the trailers for other shows tip in to the advert category? I wouldn't want to try counting how many times I heard a trailer about 13 Minutes to the Moon last year, which I'm picking on specifically because I actually enjoyed it to make the point that the bucket choice can be very subjective.

> Hmm, at what point do all the trailers for other shows tip in to the advert category?

I'd say at the point where people would get upset if they were paying money for an explicitly ad-free podcast.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by StavrosK » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:55 PM UTC

ducaale wrote: post #187

Would a game with ads that can be turned off for free count? Its called Snowpounce and here is a video about its development https://youtu.be/7ZYkCOmF0yc Disclaimer: the game is not mine

Yes, if you can turn them off completely forever, certainly.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by mjevans » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:56 PM UTC

Are there more options for a Solitaire game that fit on this list?

My retired father could use something familiar (more like the Windows 95 solitaire, minesweeper, and 'mahjong solitaire' tile matching) games that probably still occupy some floorspace in that grey-matter.

I'd also like some games that might help both younger kids and the elderly by exercising memory matching, pattern deduction, and basic math skills. It wasn't clear how to pick such titles out of the list.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by StavrosK » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 11:56 PM UTC

nwsm wrote: post #181

Columns can only be sorted descending. https://nobsgames.stavros.io/ios/?s=price

They're actually only sorted in one way, descending or ascending, depending on the column. I aim to fix that soon.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by sunsetMurk » Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 12:36 AM UTC

redisman wrote: post #240

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I played the original to death "back in the day" so I'm really sad to hear that they went down this route. Probably also explains why nobody talks about Angry Birds anymore.

How many other video games from 2009 are people talking about today? It's just the nature of the beast.

counterstrike! ..But it too has now been corrupted by DLC/IAP/etc.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by Can_Not » Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 1:25 AM UTC

I think you should broaden your categorization logic. One app idea I've never had time to start was to make (basically your project) but with also the intent to help filter by specific attributes like:

- offline play

- ads

- ads removable by IAP

- no gambling via IAP

- multiplayer

- 2 player online (1v1)

- 2 player online (co op)

- 2 player same device

- asynchronous multiplayer (like modern play by email, e.g. words with friends)

- not a farmville clone (almost all games trying to catch simcity SEO on android are actually farmville clone shitware).

- no paywalls

- no pay to win

- native of html5

- turn based

- real time

- board game

- 2d

- 3d

The problem is it's really hard to find good games in the android store because every search result is littered with child gambling addiction shitware, or the specific detail isn't isn't indexed at all anywhere.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by Fr33maan » Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 3:42 AM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #104

Fr33maan wrote: post #60

No IAP and no ads? How does a game studio should earn money then? Knowing the fact that business model of games are moving to free to play and than players are now reluctant more than ever to pay a decent price for a game but prefer spend 5x more little by little? Do you intend to reverse the trend? Real question, no trolling. How a game studio can make money with a F2P game? Or how can we make money from a free 2 pl…

There are plenty of games with IAP and ads on that list, nobody said that a game with IAP is always bullshit. In fact, that's the opposite of what the guidelines say: https://nobsgames.stavros.io/help/

I missed that page. I looked at the front page and answered to the post. Thx for linking the guidelines page

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by idclip » Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:51 AM UTC

pierrec wrote: post #165

idclip wrote: post #150

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Thats actually just old school selling a game. For cash, once, no DLCs, no running costs. Which is actually awesome. My first games were Quake, and Quake2. I enjoyed shilling out the cash just once. Bought expansions as budget allowed and was always excited to. More power to you honestly. Edit: duck ads.

The question was how to implement the freemium/shareware model in apps. It's important to understand that this model can make a lot of sense, for example in the case of weird and experimental games, where it avoids people wasting their money on something they won't like and leaving disgruntled reviews. It also encourages people to try something new. One approach is to have a single IAP and make the pricing obvious.

I honestly don't think freemium/Ads are a good model.

I understand what you mean, and i think the model pursued by old games was less toxic. They simply released shareware ... just 10% of the game for anyone to try.

Freemium/Ads works well for addicting things, and im not sure how the negative effects of what’s done there can be honestly counter acted.

So its not that i don’t think that the model generates less money, its just burning down the house.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by casid » Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 7:30 AM UTC

My contribution is a tower defense I've been working on over the last 7 years and that I'm still regularily playing myself: https://mazebert.com/ The graphics are pretty bad (I'm drawing them myself, heh), but there's a lot of depth and content to it.

There are three optional, one-time in app purchases, where you can tip me with a cookie, beer or whisky and get a cosmetic card in return.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by toper-centage » Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 7:32 AM UTC

redisman wrote: post #240

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I played the original to death "back in the day" so I'm really sad to hear that they went down this route. Probably also explains why nobody talks about Angry Birds anymore.

How many other video games from 2009 are people talking about today? It's just the nature of the beast.

Minecraft :)