Things that I think will be important in the next decade • Hacker News Board

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by LadyCailin » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 1:59 PM UTC

dpq wrote: post #152

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #111

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Huh, I just want my heads up life display because...why not? Maybe I won’t trust Facebook to give it to me, but if the tech becomes good enough, I’m definitely going to embrace it. Is it really a dystopian future? We’ve adjusted to the telegraph, camera, telephone, radio, TV, cell phone, smart phone and...why are AR glasses going to be the tech to bring society down?

I think the parent is worried about the possible mandatory ubiquity of AR devices more than anything. As long as skipping a tech is socially acceptable and does not impose impractical costs (try living without interacting with a computer or a phone in a big city for a month and see how well it goes), AR vendors will have to have consumers interests in mind. As soon as AR becomes pragmatically unavoidable, vendors can…

This is true of all technology advances. See electricity, motorized vehicles, phones, email (or the earlier form, the telegraph), more generally the internet and computers. You can’t ride your horse everywhere anymore, if you want to contact a company, you can probably still write them a letter, but if it’s urgent, you’re going to want to call or email them. Technology changes things, whether you like it or not, and unfortunately you just have to get over that. Society doesn’t function the same as in the 1800’s, and that’s ok.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:03 PM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #111

cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #52

>"at some point in the 2020s, we will get breakthrough augmented reality glasses that will redefine our relationship with technology." Constant video surveillance, direct-to-eyes on-glass advertising, targeted advertising beamed on every approved spot, interests profiling via retina movements/focus and God knows what else will undoubtedly come about if AR glasses become "cool" and ubiquitous like mobile phones. Maybe…

Huh, I just want my heads up life display because...why not? Maybe I won’t trust Facebook to give it to me, but if the tech becomes good enough, I’m definitely going to embrace it. Is it really a dystopian future? We’ve adjusted to the telegraph, camera, telephone, radio, TV, cell phone, smart phone and...why are AR glasses going to be the tech to bring society down?

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Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by the_gipsy » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:09 PM UTC

CaptainZapp wrote: post #240

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #232

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Those bars and strip clubs already have plenty of CCTVs, you are being recorded. Police have body cams, cars have dash cams, almost every phone has a camera capable of taking video, the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. A glass cam will probably work out the same way CCTV has: people are worried about the potential for privacy abuse, but in the end these fears don’t come to…

Sigh! Where to start? OK, let me give it a shot. Luddites complained about the automated loom as well Now that's a really bad case of whataboutism. I'm not complaining about technological advance. I'm complaining about tech, which is a massive invasion of privacy. Have you ever been lying on a beach and some asshole lets his drone flying around? I don't know about you, but I really don't fancy to be half naked on som…

> When you whip out your phone and start recording that's obvious as hell. Not so, when you do it by a wearable.

Not necessarily obvious. You most likely can't tell if someone is just holding his phone in his hands, or is recording you. There are apps that don't show a preview or any other clues on screen, so you won't know even if you get to see their screen.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by neuronic » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #284

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #232

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Those bars and strip clubs already have plenty of CCTVs, you are being recorded. Police have body cams, cars have dash cams, almost every phone has a camera capable of taking video, the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. A glass cam will probably work out the same way CCTV has: people are worried about the potential for privacy abuse, but in the end these fears don’t come to…

>Those bars and strip clubs already have plenty of CCTVs, you are being recorded. Police have body cams, cars have dash cams, almost every phone has a camera capable of taking video, the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. >A glass cam will probably work out the same way CCTV has: people are worried about the potential for privacy abuse, but in the end these fears don’t come t…

> instantly send the data to a central server

and in addition... share it on social media. Benign examples being your girlfriend just saw you on Twitter buying a ring for her by virtue of facial recognition and auto-tagging.

Always-on glasses constantly recording and uploading video are at least very illegal in Germany. I know we are sometimes too conservative and risk-averse but always-recording AR glasses are a bit too much.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by eeZah7Ux » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:11 PM UTC

ethbro wrote: post #283

onion2k wrote: post #226

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Google+ failed because Google didn't know what they wanted it to be. I don't think that's down to engineering. That's a product and marketing problem. AR is a little different because it's not a product; Facebook's AR apps might fail, but Zuck's vision could still succeed if Facebook create (or acquire) tools for creating an AR ecosystem.

Google doesn't actually have many customer-facing product wins on the strength of their GUIs / UX to its credit, period. Google search was minimalist. Android followed everyone else in the market, and hasn't iterated core UX much since. G Suite office apps were acquired, and mostly cloned Office online. Same with Gmail. Maps is about the only heavily-used app, and I wouldn't call its design revolutionary (or even goo…

> Google search was minimalist

That's a feature.

> Maybe I'm missing something major

Yes.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by Psyladine » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:12 PM UTC

jamesfisher wrote: post #248

nikolay wrote: post #154

I think Zuck is too full of himself. People often get confused that their success means that they are wise, and that we should listen to them. Should we as well follow the thought leadership of drug cartels and the Saudi monarchs?

If this post had been written by an anonymous dev, it would not be read as "full of himself". I think the "full of himself" subtext comes from the readers, not the writer. This doesn't stop the possibility that Zuck actually is full of himself.

It's as much how it is written as it is what is written. No-one who isn't a captain of industry could write a blog post like that, because they wouldn't be writing a puff-piece and write in the guarded lofty tones of political speak.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by eeZah7Ux » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

Thorrez wrote: post #144

The section titles are pretty funny. It's almost as if they were chosen to specifically disappoint cypherpunks. > A New Private Social Platform Cypherpunk: Signal! Tor! Riot! Mark: Small groups of people who know each other. > Decentralizing Opportunity Cypherpunk: Bitcoin! Peertube! IPFS! Mastadon! Namecoin! Scuttlebutt! Mark: Products for small businesses. > The Next Computing Platform Cypherpunk: Ethereum! Urbit!…

> cypherpunks

That's not what you think it means. The crowds behind the names you dropped are very different and have very little overlap.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by jotm » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #244

Silhouette wrote: post #242

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the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. OK, good, you understand the origin of the problem. Modern technology has co-opted ordinary people to act as spies for big, powerful data processing organisations, in the process seriously undermining our privacy. Now, how do we solve it?

Yes, the cameras are all around, but no, they aren’t spying on you, why should they? Most video just gets deleted unless some event happened, they don’t even archive it. I guess we could get rid of all the cameras and have everyone walk around with blind folds so they can respect everyone else’s privacy from being seen, but it seems like a net negative in my book.

Let's say I'm grocery shopping or whatever and there's 3 people recording for whatever reason. Now I'm on their video, on Facebook, very likely to be tagged.

No thank you.

If they can do that, I am free to fly a drone above their head.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by Ensorceled » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

wtmt wrote: post #276

cheschire wrote: post #198

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Citations to your references would be appreciated. It's the first step to overcoming the state of internet disinformation, as well as helping society overcome the fear of missing out just because someone doesn't already know your references.

Upvoted because even though I knew the context of that comment, I consider it poor form to expect everyone else on a public forum to keep up with every bit of daily news.

I don't think a current news event with lots of coverage, directly related to the topic at hand, requires research paper level footnotes.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by bennyg » Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 2:17 PM UTC

Ensorceled wrote: post #286

cheschire wrote: post #198

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Citations to your references would be appreciated. It's the first step to overcoming the state of internet disinformation, as well as helping society overcome the fear of missing out just because someone doesn't already know your references.

I understand what you are saying, but this is a mainstream story, easily searchable with DDG from hints in the comment, covered by both Washington Post and New York Times as well as being splashed all over Business Insider, Mashable, The Verge, etc. etc. This is not the comment to be fighting this battle with.

You spent so long typing out this reply without providing the citation, when you agree with the request for citations?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/business/media/teen-vogue... for those that are curious.