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Low birthrate isn't caused by high rent, but by a highly educated population and an economic system where kids aren't necessary to take care of you when you get old.
“and an economic system where kids aren't necessary to take care of you when you get old.” Until you get terminal cancer and you are sent home to die. Then, I assure, a “kid” might be useful, because nobody else will give a flying fuck.
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> as it increases the inequality Really?! Speaking about inequality is so hypocritical in this context that it just boils my blood. I could understand if you were having trouble to earn a living. But you can easily live in the Western Europe on even €30k. EASILY! And happily, and stress free. Your kids will get free education, free collage. You will get tons of vacations, 38 hours work week. But no, you want more. Yo…
Rich to hear Indians feeling entitled to EU immigration when the Indians just happily passed a law against Muslim immigration. Letting poor muslims compete with you on fair terms does not increase inequality. It undermines your position of power.
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Because outsourcing fails and is abandoned after two or three years, when the real costs have become apparent. The bastards that thought it up have moved up and out on the strengths of the initial cost savings by the time those chickens come home to roost. You don't have to see this kind of cycle too many times before you get a little cynical.
I've been in the IT industry for close to 20 years now. Outsourcing as a factor is not significant in project failures. Also, most outsourcing companies have been around for a while and are doing fairly well.
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What are you talking about ? Are you even living in Germany? The rent prices here in Berlin are bonkers, landlords are asking 800 Euros warm for 35 sqm "flats" and they are able to get away with it because every flat in the area has at least 30+ applicants. Even if it is rent controlled and the contracts are illegal, you can not report it otherwise you get kicked and no other landlord will rent you their property. Th…
In my opinion, as ein verrückte britische Ausländer living in Berlin, the rent control is why so many people show up to flat viewings. However, I think there is a lot of price variation in Berlin, and many cheap parts: I’m paying €485 for a room in a WG in Buchholz, while collecting €820 (after fees, at current exchange rates) from a flat in a quiet village 30 minutes away from Cambridge in the UK.
I look at it as a simple trade of goods. Hiring a Software Engineer from India is like an Indian buying a German car. If Germany can export cars to India and France can export wines, then India can export their talent. So, if you are confident of your skills and what they are worth, you should naturally go to the USA.
It's actually a better system for everyone. Mass migration is very disruptive, whereas trade in goods and services tends to be less controversial.
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> however, as a local citizen wishing to improve my country and the average income, why would I care about people coming from other countries? I mean, what do I get in return? The main point of contention is not about whether this would improve the quality of life of the average EU programmer. It is about concealing what is just naked self-interest (i.e. concern about one's own wages) with noble talk of 'inequality'.…
What's wrong with self interest and protectionism? My family comes first. I don't want to be part in the salary race to the bottom for the sake of lower prices and consumerism.
Jokes - we all know you're an incel
As a developer I'm 'fine' with this as it drives my price to many times the median salary.
But its not just IT. Our entire economy is crying about the lack of EXPERIENCED workers. But on the other hand there are still soo many unemployed, especially among the young (often unregistered and thus missing from statistics). No wonder seeing how there are almost no entry level jobs offered.
I used to belive in the 'not enough programmers' line. Now I think it's just yet another unsustainable way to avoid to actually do the necessary socialy responsible tasks that are part of doing business. Train your damn workers and take responsibility for the short-sighted decisions you made years ago.
Companies are like children. They will constantly try to push the limit in their own short-sighted interests. Its the job of government to, in the name of wider society, play the role of the parent and make sure that the negative effects of decisions are primarily felt by those who made the decisions.
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Of course, people who come from abroad have some effect on the salaries but I think the main reason is that life quality is really high in Europe (especially in Germany) so employees don't negotiate properly for their salary. When I talk with my colleagues, most of them are saying that the money that they earn is enough, there is no reason to ask for more. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There might be also a thing where we see how it plays out in Switzerland and Norway where salaries are very high indeed, but your money does not go nearly as far.
I can't comment on Norway as I have never been, but I live in Switzerland right now and I, along with other students I know here, typically live relatively cheaply by avoiding most optional services.
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I agree. I don't think we should be importing any workers. We have 330 million people and that should be plenty. Importing workers disincentivizes US elites from developing our own local work force. And importing workers hurts the nation that is losing workers. Shouldn't all the indian tech workers be used in india to help india develop? Isn't it morally wrong for a wealthy nation like the US ( or wealthy political e…
Going by your logic, EU will have to build their own Coca Cola, Pepsi, Facebook, Google, and what not. And China or India is not going to buy any of your products. Is this how you want it to be? Globalization predicates that capital and goods are procured from places where they are readily available. It is what the post-WWII world was built on. Global trade may break apart to some extant due to the nationalism resurg…
You're arguing for migration of people / labor, which is a different thing. And I don't quite see why we need knowledge workers to move in particular places. Asians have done extremely well with semiconductors, for example. We did not need to relocate 200,000 Taiwanese workers in Europe, but we can still buy their chips.
I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…
> as it increases the inequality Really?! Speaking about inequality is so hypocritical in this context that it just boils my blood. I could understand if you were having trouble to earn a living. But you can easily live in the Western Europe on even €30k. EASILY! And happily, and stress free. Your kids will get free education, free collage. You will get tons of vacations, 38 hours work week. But no, you want more. Yo…
No, I want the country I live in to act in the interest of its own citizens and not of the interest of India. After all, I pay masses of taxes, so I think it is not unfair to expect my government to not work towards making sure I get paid even less than I do now.