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Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

0x8BADF00D wrote: post #81
tomphoolery wrote: post #78

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> I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I've been smoking every day since I was 19 (currently 31), and my endocannabinoid system seems perfectly fine. Most of my peers have the same story, or have b…

Weed can trigger latent schizophrenia if used at a younger age. It is not a good idea to use before the brain is developed, especially if one is predisposed to mental illnesses like schizophrenia. It also alters testosterone synthesis, so there’s that too.

Leaving home to go to college can trigger latent schizophrenia too. So can a bad breakup with a girl or boyfriend. I’m not sure how useful that actually is.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

Gatsky wrote: post #85
alistproducer2 wrote: post #23

>Vaping of marijuana was at the root of a public health crisis that unfolded this summer The fact that it takes the author two more paragraphs to elucidate that the illness was in fact linked to bootleg, vitamin E-containing cartridges is disappointing, but not surprisingly. That fact seems really material to the argument.

The investigation is ongoing, vitamin E is not confirmed as the causal agent. Anyway, the problem is actually people inhaling random chemicals, a problem which vaping has gifted to us. There will be other cases of lung injury unrelated to vitamin E. Frankly, even 1 more dead guy is too many, I support a total ban on vaping.

Smoking also Vaporizes whatever it is you are smoking. I doubt replacing Vaping with smoking is going to be a public health win. Regulating what is in the vape liquid probably would be though.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by atom_enger »

trianglem wrote: post #65

I don’t understand why everyone moved away from directly smoking the flowers so readily. I hated the idea of shatter/resin when I first heard it and there is no way I would use a vape pen.

I agree. I felt that way when my friends started doing dabs and telling me how amazing it was. It kind of scared me to be honest. I've switched from smoking to making my own cannabis tinctures and have been using that for years. I've found that a minimal dose of cannabis in the morning really helps me dial the knob on my radio just right. They're really easy to make and so much more efficient than smoking.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by atom_enger »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #45
Pigo wrote: post #15

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I know people who are extremely dependent on weed, who will have anxiety attacks without it. It's less dangerous than most drugs, but there are people who are important to me that I wish could function without it. I'm talking grown adults, with families, who do nothing but play video games. Their problems would exist without the weed, but it seems to play a part in their stagnation. I guess I just don't know that man…

"... who will have anxiety attacks without it." Honestly, I've met many daily smokers in my life. Heck, I've been one off and on and tend to like to do it most weekends. I greatly prefer it to alcohol.Most folks can quit quite easily: At most, a few weeks of decreased appetite and trouble falling asleep. The worst effects wear off in the first week. The few folks I've met that have trouble without it have mental heal…

Not many people would believe that you can be a better parent after consuming cannabis. I'm a much better parent after consuming cannabis. I listen more, play harder and can let go of the parental thoughts that silently occupy my brain when I'm sober and playing with my kids. Cannabis really helps me let go of parental world and enter theirs for just a little while..

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Post by gizmo686 »

Noos wrote: post #146
dwrodri wrote: post #133

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The deaths caused by the THC oil are definitely nothing to scoff at, but they are more reflective of cannabis' 70+ years as a black market product than they are of the effects cannabis has on the human body. The CDC has determined that a high concentration of Vitamin E was the likely cause of lung failure for the afflicted [1]. In my opinion, this reinforces how important regulatory bodies are when it comes to things…

these are teens, it will always be a black market product for them, though. Even if you regulate it, no one should be selling it to teens period. There is no solution to this.

If there is a regulated market for adults, then the black market for teens will source from that, and thereby benifit from the regulations.

Take alchohol for example. Teen drinking is a problem, but teen methonol poisoning isn't.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by gizmo686 »

Gatsky wrote: post #85
alistproducer2 wrote: post #23

>Vaping of marijuana was at the root of a public health crisis that unfolded this summer The fact that it takes the author two more paragraphs to elucidate that the illness was in fact linked to bootleg, vitamin E-containing cartridges is disappointing, but not surprisingly. That fact seems really material to the argument.

The investigation is ongoing, vitamin E is not confirmed as the causal agent. Anyway, the problem is actually people inhaling random chemicals, a problem which vaping has gifted to us. There will be other cases of lung injury unrelated to vitamin E. Frankly, even 1 more dead guy is too many, I support a total ban on vaping.

No one is pro inhaling random chemicals. They are pro inhaling specific chemicals. The fact that there is contamination is a problem of quality control and regulation.

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Post by mnm1 »

catalogia wrote: post #99
mnm1 wrote: post #82

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You can inhale alcohol vapors. That's way more than 100% stronger. The tech exists. People might not use it cause they don't want to die. That's different. Your conclusion about losing your hearing from TCH is just fucking bullshit. Prove it.

> You can inhale alcohol vapors. That's way more than 100% stronger. That party trick is a placebo at best. You can't get drunk like that. The quantity of ethanol that will get into your blood with that trick is vanishingly small.

Sure you could. It's just that people don't. Probably because we have hard alcohol that's 95% pure. That's 1800% stronger than 5% beer. I suppose that would have been an even better way to point out the parent comment's ignorance and absurdity.

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Post by catalogia »

mnm1 wrote: post #158
catalogia wrote: post #99

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> You can inhale alcohol vapors. That's way more than 100% stronger. That party trick is a placebo at best. You can't get drunk like that. The quantity of ethanol that will get into your blood with that trick is vanishingly small.

Sure you could. It's just that people don't. Probably because we have hard alcohol that's 95% pure. That's 1800% stronger than 5% beer. I suppose that would have been an even better way to point out the parent comment's ignorance and absurdity.

The volume of vapor you'd need to inhale to get yourself drunk means it just doesn't work.

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Post by seventhtiger »

userbinator wrote: post #91
drdeadringer wrote: post #51

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I would like some perspective on what a 6-8 IQ point difference actually means in real life. I know IQ is on a curve so if I'm on the lower end and dope up I might not qualify for the military against had I not doped up by such a margin window. For an average person, what can the person sitting next to me do +8 IQ that I can't? What can the person sitting in front of me not do at -8 IQ that I can? Granted I've encoun…

100 is defined as an "average" IQ, yet I suspect everyone on this site is quite a bit above that, likely in the 110-120 range and skewed heavily upwards, and have not actually interacted constantly on a long term with someone who has a ~100 IQ, much less a ~92 IQ.

Remember the 100 includes those with mental disabilities or borderline disabled. If you are in a building without people with mental disabilities then the IQ is likely some amount above 100.

So when you think of your highschool class you shouldn't think 100, but rather 105. So even though 100 is the average of the population it can be on the lower end in a professional or academic setting.

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