Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:27 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #820

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Amazon using AWS today is entirely different from the origins of AWS or GCP or Azure being productizations of internal infrastructure. AWS services have always been their own thing, they happen to be useful so today Amazon utilizes them just like anyone else. That doesn't mean the services started internally. https://www.networkworld.com/article/2891297/the-myth-about-...

I think you're being a bit too literal here. Did AWS merely fork the infrastructure that Amazon.com runs on and start selling it, no. But are you telling me that it wasn't built on the lessons learned of amazon.com and that it doesn't share some aspects of how amazon.com worked a the time (with improvements to the bad parts)? I don't know the answer and maybe it was a clean-room implementation but that seems unlikely…

Post by pathseeker » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 8:26 PM UTC

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>That is a factually incorrect statement. Oh, so if I cancel my Stadia subscription I can still play the games?

TLDR: Yes. As far as I can tell from [1] the situation is: * Per-game purchase price. * There's a free 1080p streaming tier. * There's a $10/mo 4k streaming tier, which also includes discounts on games and some free games. * However, you won't be able to convert your Stadia-purchased games into local games or Steam codes. * And of course you won't be able to close your Stadia/Google account and still keep your games.…

Post by scarejunba » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 10:02 PM UTC

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This was genuinely not a factor when we signed a 1E8 deal with GCP. What was a factor: (non-exhaustive) * Access to their developers for core services * Discounts available * Quality of support * Access Controls / Audit / Budgeting * Dev Tools around Infra * Future Roadmap Not one of us ever would have chosen the shutdown of Plus/Reader/Wave as a factor. As a startup we hard pivoted in order to succeed. No surprise t…

The thing is that a long term roadmap for a startup is 3 years. So you're going to look for things that are going to get you 3 years down the road cheaply, and then you still aren't that big, you have gigabytes of data, not hundreds of terabytes of data, so pivoting to another cloud provider isn't a big deal. Now, scale up to a company that has a monthly IT spend of 50 million dollars. You aren't moving that much inf…

Post by hnick » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 10:44 PM UTC

michaelt wrote: post #777

pathseeker wrote: post #553

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>That is a factually incorrect statement. Oh, so if I cancel my Stadia subscription I can still play the games?

TLDR: Yes. As far as I can tell from [1] the situation is: * Per-game purchase price. * There's a free 1080p streaming tier. * There's a $10/mo 4k streaming tier, which also includes discounts on games and some free games. * However, you won't be able to convert your Stadia-purchased games into local games or Steam codes. * And of course you won't be able to close your Stadia/Google account and still keep your games.…

Post by scarface74 » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 11:06 PM UTC

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>When I say how can you trust Google for your infrastructure seeing how they abandon projects, the usual response I get is that they would never do that with their “Enterprise” offerings. And that's when I talk about Google Enterprise Search.

And the order of magnitude price increase of the maps API.