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Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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The number of Amazon packages that are prematurely marked as delivered has skyrocketed lately. When I have inquired about it via chat I have been told that this is common and I will probably receive the package later today or tomorrow. Does this happen to there people? I'm going to start fire paying attention to how these are shipped and if it's via Amazon versus USPS/FedEx.

You used to be able to get a free month of prime for any shipping error but they stopped that too.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

#102

One side effect of the growth of Amazon is the replacement of "decent" jobs with absolutely soul sucking ones. In the early 2000's I knew people that worked as delivery drivers for UPS or FedEx and it was a decent job. They seemed happy. Now I see the Amazon delivery people, and they look majorly stressed out as if they are on the edge of collapse. Many times they are delivering things at 10pm desperately trying to m…

The lament of the Luddite lingers.

Were the job not there, other jobs would be pursued. Pursue other jobs if this is not to your liking.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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post #61

Amazon's last mile delivery is a significantly worse experience than FedEx, DHL, or UPS. I put their service about on-par with USPS, which is to say: full of people lying about attempted deliveries. With both USPS and Amazon I get notified of successful delivery hours or days before the package actually shows up, or attempted delivery when I was home and nobody used the callbox. They're making a huge mistake by not p…

In Manhattan, 100% of deliveries from their in-house delivery service to my building (any tenant) are returned as “undeliverable”, while 100% of deliveries from USPS and UPS are fine.

It’s a 24/7 multiple doorman building with a famous address (even {address}.com works) and the number printed in 10 foot letters.

There are zero moments in years that a package could not be delivered, yet my account shows 50 fails of their in-house delivery, and 450 successes of UPS and USPS.

So ... riddle me this.

What does their vaunted machine learning have to say about such situations?

It’s scenarios like that that suggest the best ML still has a long way to go.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

#104
post #21

One side effect of the growth of Amazon is the replacement of "decent" jobs with absolutely soul sucking ones. In the early 2000's I knew people that worked as delivery drivers for UPS or FedEx and it was a decent job. They seemed happy. Now I see the Amazon delivery people, and they look majorly stressed out as if they are on the edge of collapse. Many times they are delivering things at 10pm desperately trying to m…

> It seems the "decent" jobs are going away, replaced by ones that turn workers into robots to better extract value from their labor. http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

That started off the most terrifying dystopia I had ever read. Now it's incredibly inspiring, but alas I have to call it a night at chapter 6.

This should be required reading.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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post #55

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I've been seeing a "deliver on my Amazon day (Saturday)" option, which is a way to batch deliver all purchases for a week.

While I haven’t seen Amazon day in the wild, I have to marvel at their marketing folks who have captured mindshare by coopting what used to be (and still is in my house) grocery day - when we do our weekly shopping - into Amazon day. To me, it’s these little moves which capture an inch of mindshare at a time that really bring home the power of marketing.

Prime members can choose a "Prime Day", meaning consolidating purchases into one day of your choice (say Thursday). This might be a bigger triumph in marketing. Convincing customers who pay a premium for 2-day shipping to accept delivery a week (or more) out, by choice. Genius!

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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post #58
post #14

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15 minutes ago an Amazon driver left my package on the street in front of my building (in urban San Francisco) and marked it as "handed directly to a resident" in the system. Amazon doesn't provide any discoverable way to complain about this either so I'm sure their internal metrics look great.

Amazon's ways of getting help are... confusing... at best. Recently I ordered something, shipper marked it as delivered, but it wasn't there. I dug through the orders interface, trying to find an option for "item never arrived", but could only find things about returns and exchanges, or ways to report damaged items or bad packaging. After searching the customer support site for the problem, the (non-interactive) answ…

I ordered an item in early Nov. It was given a tracking number and marked "on it's way" a day later. The day after its expected arrival, the status updated to "delayed" and told me come come back after Nov. 8 if it still hadn't arrived. The tracking number (Amazon) was never clickable so I couldn't get any info. The item never arrived but I also was never charged, so I just ignored it.

Black Friday, I got charged for the item but nothing else changed about my tracking. A few days later, after a similar search, I found the help link and got a refund. To this day, I have no idea whether my item ever made it out of the warehouse.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

#107

The article only mentions UPS, FedEx, and Amazon. (4.7, 3.0, 2.5 billion) How many via USPS?

In my area, anything small enough to fit in my mailbox or the smallest cardboard box they use comes via USPS. If it's in the local warehouse, Amazon delivers it. Otherwise it's UPS. I can't think of the last time an Amazon package arrived via FedEx.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

#108
post #28

One side effect of the growth of Amazon is the replacement of "decent" jobs with absolutely soul sucking ones. In the early 2000's I knew people that worked as delivery drivers for UPS or FedEx and it was a decent job. They seemed happy. Now I see the Amazon delivery people, and they look majorly stressed out as if they are on the edge of collapse. Many times they are delivering things at 10pm desperately trying to m…

I think we're all guilty of contributing to this problem. We all say we're for livable wages and then don't vote with our dollars as often as we should. I'm definitely guilty of going to Amazon because a book is a few dollars cheaper there and I can get it in two days instead of a week. If we care about workers and corporate behavior, we need to be willing to pay a little more for products that are made by companies…

That's okay. You've already admitted to your fault in public. Now let's get back to buying the new ooooo shiny from amazon.com. oh wait, you're better than this. Smile.amazon.com

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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Stop buying stuff online and start buying from locals.

The problem with this is that while it is easy to see that the success of large corporations with practices we disagree with creates the problem, it is harder to see how us stopping our support helps fix them. I boycotted Amazon for the better part of a decade over the one-click patent. Result: they lost some amount of money they didn't notice, I lost out on all the convenience and options. They changed nothing I was…

While your efforts to boycott seem to be coming from a righteous cause, the effects of your actions are only effecting you. Sometimes thats enough, but the question is are you satisfied with that being the result. You can continue to go without and keep a clear conscious while everyone else enjoys the convenience of service or you could reevaluate your mission and find another way to make a difference. While I applaud your strong will, efforts, and ability to go against the grain, I also disagree with the one of your motives to boycott in the first place. You said that the work is "body-crushing" as far as warehouse work goes. And I dont know if you ever worked in the Amazon warehouse or any warehouse at all but sometimes during some periods of the year thats just what warehouse work could be considered "body crushing". I'm here to share that I have worked in a number of warehouses and I am currently working in a Amazon warehouse, during the toughest time of year, and I wont call this work body crushing, although it can be tough for some that may not be use to working in a warehouse. It to me is definitely a lot easier than some of the other warehouse jobs I have worked in my days

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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> They don't have the master key for my mailbox or entry hall Why would you expect someone to have your keys? That’s not a reasonable expectation. > they don't have a drop off point where I can pick the package later, I can't even go to the warehouse and pick my package there They’re a delivery company, not a pick-up company, that why.

Lots of buildings give keys to fedex and ups drivers.

And more do not. I do not want every rando who scores a backpage delivery job to hve access to my building.
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