ARPU of $667? I guess there must be other revenue sources ...
JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
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Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#482Earlier quoted context omitted.
>But with a very customer-friendly clause of where if you pay for a subscription for 12 months you get a perpetual license for the latest version of the product when you initially subscribed. And then after paying for any particular version of a product for 12 months, you also get a perpetual license for that particular version and so on and so forth This came about due to a decent amount of consumer backlash, if I r…
When you say it like that, it doesn't sound amazing, but you can also phrase it as: "JetBrains listened to their customers, took feedback on board, and made meaningful changes that addressed the concerns." In a perfect world, that would the minimum expected behaviour, but in the world we live in, it's kind of surprising when it happens.
Or.. JetBrains went ahead with a disliked move, then took a half-step back. There's still a half-step in the wrong direction remaining, on top of showing that they would have been willing to go the whole way if they could have gotten away with it.
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Your perpetual license is for the oldest version available during your subscription period, not the newest. Old model: Pay $X.XX and get one year of updates. New model: Pay $X.XX (spread over 12 months) and you can use all new versions UNTIL the subscription ends. At which point, unless you renew, you have to DOWNGRADE to the one year old version. Let's face it, downgrading such an import tool is not something develo…
So that was the original plan but I believe they changed to the “more reasonable” one after the backlash (so you get the current version + 1 year of updates)
The original plan was that you'd lose access completely. The "more reasonable" one was the 1yr downgrade.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
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Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#485JetBrains makes money out of ShitBrains
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#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could say that about any tool, of course you have to spend some time to understand how to use it safely and effectively. 'for a new person, it's almost impossible to get anything done with a table saw'
do people say, "a table saw is simple and intuitive"?
I haven't heard anyone say that, but after thinking about it for a second I sure as hell would. A table saw is a lot easier to use than git.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
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I'm really curious - why do people want a graphical git client? The command line exposes everything, and the model is simple and intuitive. I work in a very large monorepo, so it's not like I'm working in a git tree that isn't complicated.
> the model is simple and intuitive I nearly spat out my drink. Git is many things but those aren't the first two words that would leap into my head.
Git model is simple.
What is complex is the hundred features and commands it provides on top of that model.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#488JetBrains makes money out of ShitBrains
Here are list of free and better things existed and will continue to exist long after JetBrains run out of fuel
Eclipse vim VS Code
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm really curious - why do people want a graphical git client? The command line exposes everything, and the model is simple and intuitive. I work in a very large monorepo, so it's not like I'm working in a git tree that isn't complicated.
Say you want to find a commit that occurred around June three years ago, and look at what the repo looked like after that commit -- without checking out any files. How do you currently do it? For me, I just Right click -> TortoiseGit -> Show Log -> scroll -> Right-click -> Browse Repository. How long does it take you? For me it takes < 10 seconds (I just timed myself).
git log, copy paste hash, git checkout
If you have a dirty wd, stash.
But, to be honest, I almost never perform that action, and when I do I use the web browser.
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#490Earlier quoted context omitted.
Say you want to find a commit that occurred around June three years ago, and look at what the repo looked like after that commit -- without checking out any files. How do you currently do it? For me, I just Right click -> TortoiseGit -> Show Log -> scroll -> Right-click -> Browse Repository. How long does it take you? For me it takes < 10 seconds (I just timed myself).
git log, copy paste hash, git checkout If you have a dirty wd, stash. But, to be honest, I almost never perform that action, and when I do I use the web browser.
> git log, copy paste hash, git checkout
You remember the hash of your June commit 3 years ago??
> But, to be honest, I almost never perform that action, and when I do I use the web browser.
Web browser... for a local repo? Or do you mean you don't have a solution if your repo isn't on GitHub or you don't have an internet connection handy?
(You should also time yourself on your web interface by the way.)