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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by chippy »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #134
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

The other intended function is to measure & monetize viewer engagement and sentiment, so that IFE can offer personalized ads as an additional revenue stream for the airlines.

the airline should already know exactly who is sitting in the seat for personalised ads.

Engagement and sentiment in what they are watching would be another thing though

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Post by cmonnow »

cpcallen wrote: post #229

I'd love one of these wingback armchairs to sleep in—but I'd settle for more widespread use of the circa-2000 British Airways economy class seats with their three-part headrest, the outermost parts of which would fold down and forwards to create a very effective side headrest: http://benjaminjtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Trip-R... Their newer planes (and those on many airlines) have headrests that fold with…

I have a smaller than average head. The 2 vertical side folds are too wide to prevent my head from sagging off to left/right, not to mention forward of course.

Lack of static head position is the biggest hindrance to sleeping seated. Back-Inclination, Leg-Space, Arm-Rest are all secondary. If you're tired enough, a head-harness is enough to catch a solid 4-hr nap.

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

why-oh-why wrote: post #154
TuringNYC wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 It baffles me that non-middle seat passengers try to assert rights to middle seat armrests and consider themselves justified.

I wonder if any of you ever tried sitting on the aisle. It’s a hazard there, constantly being hit by anything and anyone who passes by. No way I’m “resting” on that armrest and therefore I’ll lean towards the middle seat.

I managed to extend my elbow into the aisle just as a flight attendant was rushing forward and the poor lady doubled over in pain from the impact. As a large guy, I felt pretty bad, and it's not the first time someone has made contact with my passing by.

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Post by Retric »

_23sd wrote: post #235
pnutjam wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if these are just uneducated posts or astro-turfing...

Astro-turfing for what? I guess this falls into the "uneducated" category. From my apparently uneducated perspective, phones need to be a concern if you're worried about your voice and activities being recorded. Most users have no idea that, for example, Google Assistant is always listening on Pixel.

Siri is not enabled by default, they use a different approach to get users to opt in. Step 8: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202033 has a much bigger button to enable Siri, but users are given a choice and skipping Siri takes less time so it’s easier if you’re not going to use it.

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Post by sho_hn »

kumarvvr wrote: post #220
chki wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, everybody who has Alexa already has a phone constantly with them everywhere. So it's just one extra microphone, not something completely different.

However, a smartphone is more transparent, relatively, over what it does. Not so much with Alexa.

A smartphone is more transparent than a device explicitly designed and advertised to record audio in entire rooms? Or did you mean the smartphones signal more system status?

In my experience a lot of people have privacy concerns over the speakers, and underestimate the smartphone.

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Post by ratww »

_23sd wrote: post #237
smichel17 wrote: post #234

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..which you can turn off or disable..

What fraction of iPhone users do you think have turned off Siri? Based on my circle, it's zero. Android seems a bit more complicated because registration for Samsung or Amazon might be decoupled from device setup, but I'd imagine those are mostly turned on. So most people do have an always or nearly always on microphone in their pocket as the post higher up was trying to point out.

Anecdata, but most of my friends that have iPhones has Siri enabled indeed, but the minority that is aware of the "Hey Siri" feature (the only thing that needs an always-on mic) has not enabled it. Most of them find it creepy.

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

vincnetas wrote: post #172

I really liked seats arrangement in Helsinki public buses. Not sure how popular are they. But basic idea is that in a paired seat you have one seat shifted a bit to back. Because of that if there are two people sitting they don't rub their shoulders to one another and it feels much more spacious. Only picture that i could find : https://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/59672293951/234937...

Is the asocial behavior documented in the blog typical of Finland?

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Post by chooseaname »

oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Great, now I have to travel with sticky notes.

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Post by agent008t »

puranjay wrote: post #202
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

> This could be the worst idea ever. Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie This seems to be uniform across all surveillance technology. The purported convenience is so laughably minor that it's almost a parody. Like Alexa - people are willing to have a Big Brother-esque speaker inside their homes for the convenience of playing some…

The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
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