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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by grendelt »

singron wrote: post #10
ccamrobertson wrote: post #6

Those look like Premium Economy seats based on their generous width, not the crushing 17"-and-change width of typical Economy seats.

All the pictures are of women in the seats. Men often have broader shoulders and larger upper arms. If I sit next to another man, we sometimes make contact on the upper arms for most the flight. The wings seem to take up a couple inches themselves, so it could become too cramped horizontally to be comfortable.

I laughed at her sitting cross-legged on the bulkhead row. Try that just one row back, sister.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ObsoleteNerd »

greggman2 wrote: post #16

wish they made double or triple decker capsule hotel style beds for long flights.

I’d love a capsule-hotel-style option. I don’t care how cramped it is. I feel like you could stack some bunks that take up the same cubic-space-per-seat as existing seats. I only need enough space to lie sideways with my phone in front of my face and a USB port and I’d travel a lot lot more.

Context: Physically disabled and have issues sitting on chairs for longer than 1-2hrs before my legs are in excruciating pain, but also, before I had this issue I would’ve loved a submarine-bunk option.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by jeffwilcox »

zaroth wrote: post #19
crimsonalucard wrote: post #14

The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane. It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rathe…

FAA regulations require the ability to evacuate the cabin in 90 seconds .

90 seconds as measured by non-realistic volunteers in Toulouse and/or Everett who aren't actually afraid for their lives :(

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

jedberg wrote: post #2

> In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. Wow, marketing fluff much? They just want to add something to check for closed eyes. Not exactly facial recognition.

It’s tough to defend CNN... but it has to recognize faces to do that right? :)

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by Johnny555 »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #24
jedberg wrote: post #2

> In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. Wow, marketing fluff much? They just want to add something to check for closed eyes. Not exactly facial recognition.

It’s tough to defend CNN... but it has to recognize faces to do that right? :)

Depends on what you mean by "recognize faces".

It has to recognize that it's seeing a face and eyes, but it doesn't need to recognize that the face belongs to John Smith, Frequent Flyer #0123456789

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by crimsonalucard »

eagsalazar2 wrote: post #17
crimsonalucard wrote: post #14

The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane. It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rathe…

How would you get up to go pee? How could you eat pretzels without getting them all over yourself?

I've eaten while lying down. It works.

Also to get out to go to pee, it's the same as sitting down. Basically everyone has to roll or slither out of the lie down spot for the inner person to get out.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by hetman »

Ericson2314 wrote: post #8

I always lean forward on the tray table. I find resting my head / getting it horizontal is far more important than anything for the rest of my body. Is this just me? I get the sense that very little is optimized for this. The next person reclining their seat makes it harder to fit my head on the tray table, for example. Conflicting resting positions!

I'm the same but I'm finding there's simply not enough room to fold over like this on newer airliners.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by crimsonalucard »

zaroth wrote: post #19
crimsonalucard wrote: post #14

The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane. It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rathe…

FAA regulations require the ability to evacuate the cabin in 90 seconds .

Maybe do-able. Gotta run an experiment to find out.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by TuringNYC »

tyingq wrote: post #12

What I'd rather see is designs that make the middle seat more palatable. There are more aircraft with 3 seats on each side now. It's not perfect, but ideas that make the middle seat better via dedicated armrests, or offsetting it slightly back, would be welcome. One supplier with some decent ideas: https://www.airlineseats.biz/for-passengers

+1

It baffles me that non-middle seat passengers try to assert rights to middle seat armrests and consider themselves justified.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by espes »

rtkwe wrote: post #9
Animats wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the stand-up seat.[1] [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/standing-up-airplane-seat...

> "I hope that someone would consider this kind of opportunity -- this is something new. You do not have background for this, you cannot base judgment on previous experiences. We are exploring a new world." The man says desperately trying to convince anyone that this is a good idea. Also he's talking about 'short-haul' flights then mentions 3 hours which is not exactly a short time to be stand-squat-sitting on a bike…

In the UK there are several 2-3 hour train routes that are routinely standing room only. It's not a big deal.
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