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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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However, a smartphone is more transparent, relatively, over what it does. Not so much with Alexa.

Not sure what specifically you mean. Most smartphones today come with one of the assistants (Google, Siri, Alexa, or Bixby) turned on by default.

Not sure if these are just uneducated posts or astro-turfing...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I'm pretty sure many airlines already have cameras looking at your face. The last few international United Airlines flights I was on had IR LEDs just below the seat entertainment screen shining in my face the whole flight. I worked for an 3D camera company at the time and was pretty tuned in to IR (~850 nm) LED's dim red glow. There is no reason for them being there unless there are cameras looking at your face.

It's an IR proximity sensor, at least on the Panasonic systems.

Some of the Thales systems do have webcams.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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It's really easy to claim to make it easier to sleep in economy by adding a chair from short haul business class.. This doesn't fit in at all with making the seats as light and thin as possible to save weight and increase available space (for more legroom or more seats) A much cheaper, smaller and simpler option would just have to have the head rest paddings that have small foldable wings that exist already on slight…

I hate those headrests. They force my neck forward into an unnatural position making it impossible to sleep that way. I’d prefer no headrest at all. If I am serious about sleeping on a flight, I have to rest forward on the food tray. This is also impossible sometimes, depending on the space and whether the seat is reclined. Anyway, that’s just me. I’m not saying an airplane should be tailored to my personal needs. I…

Exact same situation. I can't imagine how people can find headrests in airplane comfortable unless they're leaning back at a 180 degree angle and just using it as a pillow, or they have a completely flat head.

For people with round noggins, it just pushes our heads forward. Even trying to lean my seat back with the generous 2 degrees of space given, my head still tilts forward. Then right when I start dozing off, I get caught in a wake-sleep 60 second loop where I'm just about to fall asleep, but my head drops (since it's being pushed forward and my muscles spontaneously relax), then my body instantly wakes up to pull my head back up. This cycle gives me incredible neck pain.

They're torture devices. Just give me a flat seat with a slight lean back. The pictures in the article look good, but I know they're going to find some way to screw it up. They have to in order to push people to business class.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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However, a smartphone is more transparent, relatively, over what it does. Not so much with Alexa.

Not sure what specifically you mean. Most smartphones today come with one of the assistants (Google, Siri, Alexa, or Bixby) turned on by default.

..which you can turn off or disable..

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #227

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Not sure what specifically you mean. Most smartphones today come with one of the assistants (Google, Siri, Alexa, or Bixby) turned on by default.

Not sure if these are just uneducated posts or astro-turfing...

Astro-turfing for what? I guess this falls into the "uneducated" category. From my apparently uneducated perspective, phones need to be a concern if you're worried about your voice and activities being recorded. Most users have no idea that, for example, Google Assistant is always listening on Pixel.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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White-anted? Never heard this term before.

Sorry, accidentally used an Australianism. It means putting up a million minor issues behind your back and generally eroding belief in things like white ants (termites) attacking a wooden stump on your house. Secretly undermining.

similar to "death by bunny-bites" but I like the additional concept of "secretly undermining"

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what specifically you mean. Most smartphones today come with one of the assistants (Google, Siri, Alexa, or Bixby) turned on by default.

..which you can turn off or disable..

What fraction of iPhone users do you think have turned off Siri? Based on my circle, it's zero. Android seems a bit more complicated because registration for Samsung or Amazon might be decoupled from device setup, but I'd imagine those are mostly turned on. So most people do have an always or nearly always on microphone in their pocket as the post higher up was trying to point out.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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The other intended function is to measure & monetize viewer engagement and sentiment, so that IFE can offer personalized ads as an additional revenue stream for the airlines.

I was in a taxi in Japan with a TV screen in the headrests. It started with a message saying it uses facial recognition to tell if you are male or female, in order to provide you with the most relevant content, where the content was entirely advertising. Your future is now.

NY taxis have adverts in them. I therefore use uber in NY.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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I also a similar message in a Koutsuu but it was something about "Watching you face to see if you find the content engaging". I guess they think they can keep tailing the information to you until you can't seem to look away? Very creepy.

I would immediately switch to another cab.

I must admit, when travelling I sort of accept a lower level of privacy. Other people who probably have location, purchase, or photographic data about my trip

  All the governments and airports involved of course
  Star Bucks saw my credit card appear for the first time across HK and Japan, hopefully the last time
  JR Rail Companies, all of the train stations
  NaviTime, the transit app company
  Google would know pretty much everything about my trip, GMaps was very helpful.
  My Bank would have a bunch of data
  The 7/11s, Lawsons, FamilyMarts and their payment providers/banks
  My Bank knows everything I did
  Instagram probably has more location data than it should
  SoftBank wifi saw me travel across the continent, there was almost nowhere safe from a SoftBank SSID and I'm sure they keep track.
The list likely goes on. It's almost futile, but not quite. I did my best to be cognizant, but unless you become a hermit in the hills I don't think you can avoid it.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Not sure what specifically you mean. Most smartphones today come with one of the assistants (Google, Siri, Alexa, or Bixby) turned on by default.

..which you can turn off or disable..

Almost none of my family members understand the implications of the voice assistant let alone know how to turn it off. You’re a techy type and are thinking my uncles or grandparents operate at your level.
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