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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by saalweachter »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #270
bogwog wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Don't be evil" is perfect because of how simple it is. It's supposed to be common sense. > people can have significantly different ideas of what counts as evil. And those people, who need someone to explain to them what is or isn't evil, aren't welcome. That's why I personally loved that motto. Too bad that whole ethos got dropped like it was a recently-launched product.

This topic fascinates me, but I haven't found a way to productively discuss it on HN. If you too find it interesting, you may enjoy doing a literature search on the topic.

I personally like the semantic distinction between "don't be evil" and the way it is often misremembered on HN, "do no evil".

Do no evil seems stricter than don't be evil. How much evil can you do before you are evil? Or can you be evil while doing no evil?

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Post by congratsbot »

jmgao wrote: post #295
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #291

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Indeed one of the things that has always baffled me in my eight years at Google is the culture of bottomless "Congrats!" reply-all emails that come out at promotions, product launches, etc. And here we see one on HN :-)

badge plz

Well Done! Excellent execution.

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Post by [deleted] »

jm4 wrote: post #222
option wrote: post #214

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Can someone please explain why it is well deserved? For example, when I was at MSFT it was very clear why Satya deserved to be the next CEO - for leading and growing the cloud business from irrelevance to a major pillar of MSFT. What about Sundar? Is this all because he led Chrome?

I don’t get it either. Google’s reputation has been lousy, there’s something weird going on among employees and the company isn’t clearly advancing in any particular area. Sundar strikes me as Google’s Ballmer. Satya, on the other hand, has been outstanding. Microsoft has transformed and looks like a company that will be dominant for at least another 20 years.

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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by congratsbot »

sharkweek wrote: post #242
jm4 wrote: post #222

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I don’t get it either. Google’s reputation has been lousy, there’s something weird going on among employees and the company isn’t clearly advancing in any particular area. Sundar strikes me as Google’s Ballmer. Satya, on the other hand, has been outstanding. Microsoft has transformed and looks like a company that will be dominant for at least another 20 years.

I cannot believe the transition Microsoft has pulled off. Living in Seattle, a notable % of my social circle was at Amazon for the last decade, but more and more are heading across the lake as MSFT reshapes itself.

Microsoft has made an amazing transition. Kudos to them.

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Post by KaoruAoiShiho »

bb88 wrote: post #196
summerlight wrote: post #161

There are some ongoing theory-crafting in this thread, but the real reason seems pretty simple; Larry and Sergey obviously don't want to deal with all the management and operational stuffs, but only "moonshots" like autonomous vehicles or quantum computing. Yeah, this was the whole purpose of establishing a holding company, but Alphabet has grown by 2 times (both in employee count and revenue) and probably they're no…

I'm not sure that Sundar has been a good CEO. The constant shutdown of google services that people rely on has been troubling. The management troubles over employees lately has been troubling as well. They still own the search market, but would you worry about the lifespan of the google products you're thinking of buying? I still have a Sony Google TV, it works great as a TV but the android OS is no longer supported,…

Isn't the constant shutdown a google thing before Sundar? I doubt it's an imposition from him.

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Post by foota »

mschuster91 wrote: post #264
hangonhn wrote: post #181

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So Gates is not alone. Buffet and Ellison have both pledged the vast majority of their wealth to the Gates Foundation. Somewhat unique to the US, our billionaires tends to be fairly philanthropic.

And now imagine a society in which it would not be decided by self-proclaimed "philantropists" where societal progress is made and which basic human needs (like a roof over the head of every person, or kids having a lunch at school instead of being shamed for parents too poor to pay) are met, but instead the super rich pay their fair share in taxes and society decides democratically. US billionaires are only philantr…

Sometimes I feel like (some, not all) billionaires are better stewards of money than the US government and people.

How much of his wealth does Bill Gates spend on the military industrial complex?

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Post by sjg007 »

seppel wrote: post #253
summerlight wrote: post #161

There are some ongoing theory-crafting in this thread, but the real reason seems pretty simple; Larry and Sergey obviously don't want to deal with all the management and operational stuffs, but only "moonshots" like autonomous vehicles or quantum computing. Yeah, this was the whole purpose of establishing a holding company, but Alphabet has grown by 2 times (both in employee count and revenue) and probably they're no…

My personal prediction is that Sundar will be to Google what Ballmer was to Microsoft: He will make tons of money but will drive Google into a corner where it will be disrespected by, well, hackers (That is, people who are interested in technically open solutions, configurability, fitness of unplanned purposes, etc). But is it refreshing that Microsoft now is going back into an opposite direction.

Yeah you could say they are close to jumping the shark... it remains to be seen what former Google employees do next. If Google continues to dump money into salaries and stock then they might not have much to worry about. Personal assistants, knowledge graph, Alexa/Siri/"Ok Google" are definitely the future. Apple seems to be winning in the car but Alexa is winning at home.

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Post by kcanini »

seppel wrote: post #277
aazaa wrote: post #20

Buried in a paragraph 2/3 of the way down: > ... Going forward, Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet. ... Not knowing the internals of Google, it seems as if this is the announcement that Page and Brin are stepping down. Is this correct? If so, what an incredibly subtle way to announce a high-profile pair of resignations.

The funny thing is: If you are used to coporate speech, then immediately after you read the headline "A letter from Larry and Sergey" you know that there is a resignation coming up.

"An update on Larry and Sergey"

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Post by iandanforth »

https://www.wired.com/story/wired-25-sundar-pichai-china-cen...

Having Pichai in charge is deeply disturbing to me. If he has had a public moment that demonstrated deep moral convictions that were put before the obvious market benefit of the company I haven't heard about it. (But feel free to provide links)

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Post by dctoedt »

beaned wrote: post #99

One thing I really like about Larry Page is that it's obvious he never really wanted to be a manager. He's a real nerd at heart who likes technology. But he also realized the value of what he created and acted as a good steward for 20 years. He took the reigns when he needed to, and let others take over when the time was right. He's still one of the people I look up to most.

> he took the reigns

Friendly amendment: reins

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