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Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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There's really no need for corpspeak here.

When you're immersed in corpspeak constantly it takes a conscious effort to realize when you're in a non-corpspeak context.

Indeed one of the things that has always baffled me in my eight years at Google is the culture of bottomless "Congrats!" reply-all emails that come out at promotions, product launches, etc. And here we see one on HN :-)

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I don’t get it either. Google’s reputation has been lousy, there’s something weird going on among employees and the company isn’t clearly advancing in any particular area. Sundar strikes me as Google’s Ballmer. Satya, on the other hand, has been outstanding. Microsoft has transformed and looks like a company that will be dominant for at least another 20 years.

I agree with your statement, but I'd say that at least Google has been advancing their machine learning/AI front under Sundar. But that's about it. You can clearly pinpoint the moment Google started going downhill the moment he took over, whether this has been the result of his leadership or due to the Alphabet restructuring, I don't know.

I won't make any comment about going downhill or not, but the Alphabet restructuring you're talking about came after Patrick Pichette left and Ruth Porat took over as CFO but before Sundar became CEO.

If there was a clear boundary between old and new Google I'd say it is around the time that Patrick and Alan Eustace left. Other changes in senior leadership happened in that same couple of years.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I can name only one: mobile. OTOH Ballmer spearheaded Azure and Office/Exchange as a service, both of which are the major reasons why MS is a trillion-dollar company on an upswing today. No amount of Satya would save it, if Ballmer didn't beat the internal Microsoft "deep state" into submission on Azure and SaaS first. And a serious beatdown was required before Office and Windows apparatchiks received the message.

Ballmer tried to save Microsoft by killing the Internet, creating the opening for Google to become the industry leader

I think you're confusing him with Gates. Although Ballmer did refuse to buy Google when he could. Would have been a drop in the bucket. I forgot, BTW, he also spun up the ad and search businesses: the only reason there's any alternative to Google at all.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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A well deserved congratulations to Sundar's promotion! Larry and Sergey have spent the majority of their time on Other Bets for quite some time now, and it's good to see that this is finally being solidified / recognized within Alphabet's management structure.

There's really no need for corpspeak here.

It just looks like a congratulations to me to be honest, but perhaps that has to do with the fact that German is my native language.

Would you mind explaining what you mean by ‘corpspeak’ with that person’s comment? I wouldn’t be surprised if I wrote something like that in a similar tone.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you're immersed in corpspeak constantly it takes a conscious effort to realize when you're in a non-corpspeak context.

Indeed one of the things that has always baffled me in my eight years at Google is the culture of bottomless "Congrats!" reply-all emails that come out at promotions, product launches, etc. And here we see one on HN :-)

badge plz

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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There's really no need for corpspeak here.

It just looks like a congratulations to me to be honest, but perhaps that has to do with the fact that German is my native language. Would you mind explaining what you mean by ‘corpspeak’ with that person’s comment? I wouldn’t be surprised if I wrote something like that in a similar tone.

I'm guessing the "Other Bets" phrase

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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One thing I really like about Larry Page is that it's obvious he never really wanted to be a manager. He's a real nerd at heart who likes technology. But he also realized the value of what he created and acted as a good steward for 20 years. He took the reigns when he needed to, and let others take over when the time was right. He's still one of the people I look up to most.

> He's still one of the people I look up to most.

I don't. He's allowed Google to become many of the things he's long stated he was opposed to. Either he never had his stated values in the first place, or he's turned his back on them in later years.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I'm not sure how long these sort of antitrust cases take to litigate (I was young during Microsoft's high profile case), but I'd say this is one of the most rational explanations as to why, seemingly out of nowhere, they'd parachute away together. It looks like an attempt to try to distance themselves, their personal images, and their assets before it gets too ugly. I would certainly do so unless my personal financia…

They've made other major moves together. This is apparently part of a slow fade they've been doing at least since they started Alphabet. The reasons behind that remain mysterious.

Mysterious? I'd personally retire to enjoy my millions long before I got to the point of having billions, so I don't think there's much explanation needed about why they'd want to not have to worry or work anymore.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Cashing out before the antitrust suits start to hit.

I'm not sure how long these sort of antitrust cases take to litigate (I was young during Microsoft's high profile case), but I'd say this is one of the most rational explanations as to why, seemingly out of nowhere, they'd parachute away together. It looks like an attempt to try to distance themselves, their personal images, and their assets before it gets too ugly. I would certainly do so unless my personal financia…

My hunch would be that they are just bailing before they get mired in something like an antitrust suit. They strike me as the type of person that enjoys the fun of a fast startup environment, and a big Co under an antitrust suit is pretty much the opposite of that. I doubt they are driven by money as much, in comparison.
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