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Re: Save .org

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Post by jijji »

glup wrote: post #59
foxhop wrote: post #51

I think I give up on the Internet that we know today. I'm too tired to fight anymore. Monopoly ISPs with data caps, DNS rent seeking, the walled gardens, the internet of shit where I cannot walk down my street without getting recorded by every house with a "ring". I'm done with it. I don't want to partake anymore, I don't want to fight it anymore, I don't want to care anymore. Let the Google's and Facebook's have the…

Same. Time for a completely different stack / protocol? Like a cloud that is actually a cloud rather than corporate centralization with a side order of surveillance?

x.25 was my favorite

Re: Save .org

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Post by taeric »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #74
zadler wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely, time to move to governed cyber communities, where taxes will go towards providing infrastructure and maintaining rights.

Asking for more government (analog in this case) is just kicking the can down the road. Your tiny cool self-regulating community, will either die, be eaten by Facebook or become Facebook.

I think the point was that there basically is no fully technical solution. Regulation has to come from the society in question.

Granted, I'm holding out hope that someone surprises us with a technical solution. I just don't have high hopes there.

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Post by roenxi »

brianshaler wrote: post #67
askafriend wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> stolen out from under us. Who is "us"? The internet is available to more people in more countries than ever before. There's more content on the internet than ever before. It's a part of every day life for nearly everyone in the world. That's what's happening to the internet. It's no longer a corner where quirky tinkerers were the only ones who could access it. And the promise of the internet was never to be just th…

I think the sentiment was regarding the democratization of knowledge and access, which is shifting more toward an oligarchy. True, more of humanity is coming online. However, they can only participate if they can be monetized and controlled by those with all the wealth and power.

The internet was and remains the most democratic knowledge dissemination engine in several thousand years of recorded history. It is substantially more democratic than it was in the 90s and 2000s because there are more people accessing it now.

It isn't shifting towards an oligopoly unless you count things like Wikipedia as a monopoly. Which it isn't, Wikipedia is probably about as close to an ideal democracy as any human project ever attempted.

Re: Save .org

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Post by kragen »

exikyut wrote: post #79
foxhop wrote: post #51

I think I give up on the Internet that we know today. I'm too tired to fight anymore. Monopoly ISPs with data caps, DNS rent seeking, the walled gardens, the internet of shit where I cannot walk down my street without getting recorded by every house with a "ring". I'm done with it. I don't want to partake anymore, I don't want to fight it anymore, I don't want to care anymore. Let the Google's and Facebook's have the…

Sorry, you're not allowed to leave. Earlier today I was trying to Google a website I found on my PC a while back. (Backing up its disk atm, and don't use Chrome sync.) Clicked on an unrelated link, and was already in the process of reaching for the Back button when I realized I was looking at a cert failure (wrong domain in certificate). Heh. Idly curious I hit Continue... And was presented with my first > Content De…

What website?

Re: Save .org

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Post by rambojazz »

foxhop wrote: post #51

I think I give up on the Internet that we know today. I'm too tired to fight anymore. Monopoly ISPs with data caps, DNS rent seeking, the walled gardens, the internet of shit where I cannot walk down my street without getting recorded by every house with a "ring". I'm done with it. I don't want to partake anymore, I don't want to fight it anymore, I don't want to care anymore. Let the Google's and Facebook's have the…

> DNS rent seeking

Domains registrars?

Re: Save .org

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Post by taeric »

autoexec wrote: post #62
gregmac wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you decentralize, you don't end up with something equivalent to "the internet" anymore -- you end up with several islands of things that (to varying degrees) resemble "the internet", and run on the same layer 4 fabric, but are largely isolated from one another. I think we actually experience a mild version of this today, where entities publish their all their Twitter/Facebook/Instagram/Snapchat/Whatsapp/Linkedin e…

> You should have no doubt that, for example, Facebook would make a "the internet" which was 100% Facebook-operated sites. AOL already tried that back when they were still sending floppies through the mail. They were the largest ISP on earth and couldn't keep people in their little walled off corner of the internet. I don't think anyone else is going to be more successful.

They were probably more successful than you'd like to acknowledge. And the modern companies do have a fair bit more power.

Re: Save .org

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Post by mehhh »

walrus01 wrote: post #26

Some further background on what happened. I don't see how this can be interpreted as anything other than corruption, plain and simple. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_s... "Former ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade personally registered the domain name currently used by Ethos Capital in May and it was registered as a limited company in the US state of Delaware on May 14. That date is significant becaus…

The whole deal smells of self dealing, why was Ethos Capital selected to buy the .org registry versus an open bidding process?

Re: Save .org

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Post by guywithahat »

> This article was brought to you by the domain squatters lobby

But seriously I don’t see what’s wrong with this sale. There are no restrictions on who can use a .org domain anyways, and the only people price increases really affect are domain squatters (real organizations can afford 10x the current price without batting an eye). I don’t see what’s wrong with this sale

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