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Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by IAmEveryone »

Razengan wrote: post #497
munmaek wrote: post #379

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"are you really ignorant enough to" "it's because of people like you" That's certainly one way to get people to immediately stop listening to you. Parent merely was talking about the wireless cards.

GP has extremely vitriolic comments like [0]: > Haskell is a community of cancerous people that should die, along with cancer. This being a tech discussion forum, I really think dang and other HN admins should count attacks based on people's choice of tech as a form of hate speech against any other groups. Such attacks only distress readers and the buildup of noise from the inevitable responses gradually devolves thi…

Reading through GP's posts I'm getting a vibe of some sort of personality disorder and/or extreme loneliness. I've seen people develop exactly that sort of holier-than-though techno-puritanism in such circumstances. I can even recognise that mechanism in myself, although I've been lucky enough to leave most of it behind after my teenage years.

Anyway, I wouldn't necessarily equate such statements with actual hate speech. It's just hyperbole and Haskell/Python/Ruby users are probably save.

The comments are still bad because they just don't add anything.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by adiabatty »

bodyfour wrote: post #438
netsharc wrote: post #213

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> I don't think any desktop computer should be telling me how to type. I agree.. seems like Apple derped there. The auto-correct was because typing on a smartphone is a lot harder, but some genius must've thought "Hey, why don't we use this software on our desktops too?". Also holding down a hardware key to get to accented characters, oh fuck, how is that ergonomic?

> Also holding down a hardware key to get to accented characters, oh fuck, how is that ergonomic? I think it's a good addition for when you very occasionally need to type a particular accented character, since you can visually see the options. Of course if you are going to type it a lot you're better off learning the Option key combo. For instance I would have to look up how to directly type "ł" since I rarely need t…

> For instance I would have to look up how to directly type "ł" since I rarely need to type a Polish name... but I can get it in 1 second by holding down "l". Very handy!

What's more, you can't even type ł on the standard Apple layout. Sure, you could use the Apple Extended keyboard layout that handles more characters than what's used in Western Europe, but you'll lose ≈ (irritatingly, the Extended layout isn't a strict superset of the standard layout). I type ≈ more often than I type ł or ć or ō, so the hold-key behavior is a handy addition.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by cerberusss »

loh wrote: post #470
all_factz wrote: post #239

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I don’t mean to dunk on you, and I’m sure you really aren’t a lucky person (as you say), but this just stands out to me as a reason people look at us tech workers and think we’re a touch entitled: anyone who can afford a new MacBook at any point in the past few years is almost by definition lucky.

Well, since you brought it up... My MBP was actually one of the most expensive things I had ever bought, at that time. I've been pretty poor my entire life (e.g., sometimes had to skip meals as a kid because we had nothing to eat), and I worked harder than you can probably imagine for many years to be as good with computers and tech as I am now. I bought the MBP using a few thousand dollars that I had saved up from s…

Sounds like you've worked your ass off for a better life. Kudos to you, sir.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by DennisP »

gambiting wrote: post #447
magashna wrote: post #436

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That's for a very niche, need to game on the go, market. It's otherwise ridiculous looking

We actually use something very similar to run our servers at conferences and presentations, don't really care about the gpu but having a desktop-grade CPU in a "portable" package is very useful for this.

Do you happen to run Linux? A couple years ago I looked at the MSI laptop, which actually has Cherry Brown switches, but it was heavily gaming-focused and I couldn't find anything about Linux support.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by petepete »

rswail wrote: post #373
petepete wrote: post #235

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Mine's a 2013 model and I'm in the same boat. My X1 Carbon is being delivered today, the Mac put in a good shift but it's frozen a couple of times since the upgrade to a Catalina. Until the last month it's been perfect. I'll still use it for Affinity and Capture One, but as a contractor I need something I feel I can depend on.

Hang on, it's been perfect until you upgraded to Catalina? A release that is notoriously buggy? Why not downgrade back to Mojave?

I'm due an upgrade - if my life depended on it being reliable I'd downgrade. I'll do a fresh install once I'm up and running on my new machine and if that's unstable then I may downgrade it.

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Post by gambiting »

DennisP wrote: post #504
gambiting wrote: post #447

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We actually use something very similar to run our servers at conferences and presentations, don't really care about the gpu but having a desktop-grade CPU in a "portable" package is very useful for this.

Do you happen to run Linux? A couple years ago I looked at the MSI laptop, which actually has Cherry Brown switches, but it was heavily gaming-focused and I couldn't find anything about Linux support.

No, all of our servers are windows-based(a bit unusual, I know).

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by dkonofalski »

jotm wrote: post #500
dkonofalski wrote: post #474

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That's not entirely true with Hackintoshes being a thing now.

That's only for exalted characters with nice hats and beards. If you want to run MacOSX legally without risking a lawsuit from Apple (they even went after a repair shop, FFS), you must use their hardware, as per the license agreement.

>they even went after a repair shop, FFS

They went after the repair shop for copyright infringement which the shop was guilty of. That's not the same thing at all.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by dkonofalski »

_ph_ wrote: post #489
dkonofalski wrote: post #487

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>I am talking about exchanging a keyboard, battery, SSD None of those things are as simple as you're making them out to be in the form/spec of the Macbook. >And if people don't care about the time, they do care about the cost. Apparently not as Apple has the highest customer service scores in the entire computing industry by a large margin. People care about having working computers and, by and large, people who buy…

>I am talking about exchanging a keyboard, battery, SSD None of those things are as simple as you're making them out to be in the form/spec of the Macbook. The things aren't as difficult as you make them. There are plenty of devices which have reasonable repairablity without being larger than the MacBook. >And if people don't care about the time, they do care about the cost. Apparently not as Apple has the highest cu…

>There are plenty of devices which have reasonable repairablity without being larger than the MacBook.

Name one. You've made a lot of empty claims in your posts without backing up a single one. I don't even know why I'm responding to you anymore, you clearly have an axe to grind since you're responding to almost every person that disagrees with you.

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Post by _ph_ »

dkonofalski wrote: post #508
_ph_ wrote: post #489

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>I am talking about exchanging a keyboard, battery, SSD None of those things are as simple as you're making them out to be in the form/spec of the Macbook. The things aren't as difficult as you make them. There are plenty of devices which have reasonable repairablity without being larger than the MacBook. >And if people don't care about the time, they do care about the cost. Apparently not as Apple has the highest cu…

>There are plenty of devices which have reasonable repairablity without being larger than the MacBook. Name one. You've made a lot of empty claims in your posts without backing up a single one. I don't even know why I'm responding to you anymore, you clearly have an axe to grind since you're responding to almost every person that disagrees with you.

I am defending my opinion, which I consider be based by facts and good arguments. That is why I answer to anyone who disagrees with me trying to argue for my opionion and what I consider facts.

By the way, this laptop scores 9 out of 10 on ifixit: https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/EliteBook+1050+Repairability...

Another 9: https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/Samsung+Series+9+15-Inch+Rep...

The MB Pro used to score a 7 (https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Unibody+M...). It would still house a 2.5" HD and a DVD drive, so it could be a lot smaller with a SSD.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by tekknik »

tiborsaas wrote: post #300
bilbo0s wrote: post #223

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The 64GB of ram alone makes the new 16" a completely different machine. It really can't even be compared to the previous generations. 64 opens up a lot of possibilities in the media creation space that, realistically, were just not there with 32, and were pretty much impossible with 16 gig. Given a choice, I would much rather have had the 64 gig rather than a new keyboard. A keyboard you can put a cover on. There's n…

What's impossible with 16gig? Isn't disk cache a thing?

disks are slow, even SSDs / flash. not to mention eating cycles of the SSD. you want to go the other way with it, cache the disk to ram, not the other way around.
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