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Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by corodra »

seangrogg wrote: post #431
corodra wrote: post #412

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Hey, when I first visited Vegas, landed at noon, drunk by 2, vomiting by 4, asleep by 5, woke up with a hangover at 10. First time I went from sober, to drunk to hungover in the same calendar day. Fat Tuesdays margaritas man... so good... but will knock you clean the fuck out like Tyson. But... seriously though... I like video games too. But not that much. The whole escape reality, I get it. I enjoy it too. But, if y…

> But, if you are escaping reality more often than you are in it... that's a problem. I do spend quite a bit of time escaping from reality and I do agree it's a problem. The greater SF Bay area suffers from a large amount of empty virtue signaling and shaming others into their morality while remaining apathetic to others plights. Work, while having the potential to be exhilarating, often descends into the myopic and…

Don't live in San Fran then? Florida has prettier beaches and nicer people. I grew up in Florida, traveled the country in my 20s, and came back to Florida last year. Plenty of social gatherings and people who want to make friends here. The Space Coast (aka NASA county) is packed with engineers for obvious reasons. Colorado was the hardest place to make friends honestly... but the scenery in Colorado... you don't need people.

Anyways, there's more to life than San Fran and video games. To me, you're complaining about the smell when you live in a dumpster. San fran is the dumpster of humanity. I feel bad that you feel disconnected from humanity, because I know what that's like. Whether or not you want to believe me, I'm speaking from personal experience derived from the last 10 years, Cali sucks if you want to be a social, well rounded human being. I highly recommend changing your environment.

Oh, and the food is better in Florida too. Get a Cuban sub from the Tampa Bay area. Happy hour is always from 10am to 9am daily. Alligator tastes better than you think. Only eat Latin food in the small mom and pop places in the bad parts of town. Literally, the best ever and well worth the risk of getting shot in a gang related drive by. Seafood... you don't like seafood? You'll like Florida seafood.

Then there's the beach. I mean... do I need to get into why?

Am I going to get downvoted, sure. Florida man don't care.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by hnick »

failuser wrote: post #336
turtlebits wrote: post #319

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I guess I should have clarified. My only devices are a Pixelbook and my work MBP - no desktop. Playing at home (or work) are totally fine for me. Playing games like Hearthstone (where latency isn't breaking factor) is fine with me as well.

Why not play Hearthstone or similar games on MBP? They need to invent new class of games: latency-tolerant, but graphically intensive. Photorealistic turn-based massively multiplayer games?

Most JRPGs would fit the bill, especially the turn-based combat ones.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by corodra »

LukeShu wrote: post #465
corodra wrote: post #351

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I'm seeing this a lot and don't understand... where the hell are you people travelling where bringing a console/game system is a concern? I travel for work or for vacation. If for work, I'm there hitting "Spit money out for me" at an ATM. Not gaming. I'm not home so I can make much better money in a short timespan to enjoy home time more. End of days is visiting restaurants/bars and either socializing or schmoozing c…

> I read a book, ... or enjoy a movie. Right there. For lots and lots of people, gaming is in the same class of activity as reading a book or watching a movie. It genuinely feels really weird for me to write that, it feels so obvious.

Yea, like eating a salad and a Big Mac are the same class of food as well. Feels so weird since it's so obvious. A salad and a Big Mac. They're both food, thus they are both equally nutritious.

Go out and get some sun.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by catalogia »

on_and_off wrote: post #428
turtlebits wrote: post #293

"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…

$130 does not really shock me for controller + chromecast, it sounds in the right ballpark if I bought both of these separately. I already own a ps4 and a switch so I guess I count as a gamer. I still preordered Stadia because the tech demo was on point and it sounds like a good way to run games with high requirements. It is probably not going to happen (at least not in the first years) but the ability to handle mods…

> "$130 does not really shock me for controller + chromecast, it sounds in the right ballpark if I bought both of these separately."

A chromecast and a PS4 controller purchased separately today would be closer to half that much.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by delecti »

corodra wrote: post #473
LukeShu wrote: post #465

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> I read a book, ... or enjoy a movie. Right there. For lots and lots of people, gaming is in the same class of activity as reading a book or watching a movie. It genuinely feels really weird for me to write that, it feels so obvious.

Yea, like eating a salad and a Big Mac are the same class of food as well. Feels so weird since it's so obvious. A salad and a Big Mac. They're both food, thus they are both equally nutritious. Go out and get some sun.

Maybe you don't view video games as being "as nutritious" as your personal preferred forms of entertainment, but that doesn't make those preferences universal. I've brought handheld gaming devices on virtually every trip I've made in the past decade, whether for work or pleasure, and I doubt I'm an outlier.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by nhumrich »

shinteao wrote: post #298
turtlebits wrote: post #293

"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…

>all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. I think most people who like playing video games would have some sort of video game playing hardware, yes. So, they might have opinions on what a good gaming experience is. And, if they have issues with Stadia (incl latency, graphical fidelity, and library), then it might be coming from an informed place.

> I think most people who like playing video games would have some sort of video game playing hardware, yes.

False. Almost everyone who owns a smartphone plays videogames now. The mobile game market is huge. A lot of people dont own hardware specifically for video games, but still like to game. Its very possible stadia will work on android soon . Xbox has a similar service in brta that already works on phones.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by corodra »

corodra wrote: post #351
turtlebits wrote: post #293

"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…

I'm seeing this a lot and don't understand... where the hell are you people travelling where bringing a console/game system is a concern? I travel for work or for vacation. If for work, I'm there hitting "Spit money out for me" at an ATM. Not gaming. I'm not home so I can make much better money in a short timespan to enjoy home time more. End of days is visiting restaurants/bars and either socializing or schmoozing c…

I think I'm more shocked how incredibly addicted and dependent people are to the internet and gaming. The conversations here are just, "Oh my god, I can't be without high speed internet for more than thirty seconds! I might die! Planes need super fast internet! My car needs it! My fridge needs it! My dog's food bowl needs it!"

Stop. Go outside. Hug a tree or something. You need to realize, I'm a capitalist republican. I'm telling people to hug a tree and I mean it. You people need to hug a tree. Go out, with a book and sit underneath a tree for half an hour and collect some of them vitamin Ds. Leave your phone inside because no, the world will not end if you are without a phone for more than ten minutes. Chill, the fuck, out.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by SmirkingRevenge »

Lio wrote: post #364
Dylan16807 wrote: post #349

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"Same price" if you already have a solid computer with a multi-hundred-dollar GPU.

How does Stadia compared with a used PS4 and second hand copy of a game that you can trade in again afterwards? Also how does it compared price wise to a brand new but leased console? It’s going to have to be pretty cheap to be competitive I think.

Sure, if you are the kind of person to sell and buy used games, that will probably be pretty cheap. But that's becoming more niche by the day, even without Stadia. Most game sales are digital downloads from a storefront.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by catchmeifyoucan »

I loved the sunray description. In a lot of ways this reminds me of Firefox OS. It's really amazing technology but before finding product/market fit, we have to find product/solution fit. Super important to find even the core group of users who really need this. I like Stadia - and I'm a social casual gamer. I play games on my Fire TV lol, and it'd be a convincing argument for a device to bridge the gap to more beefy games, but positioned against Xbox and PS4, I'm not looking to do any sort of heavy gaming

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by scarejunba »

scarface74 wrote: post #448
scarejunba wrote: post #427

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Hmm, for the retail options? Or the premium options? We were a nine-fig customer and it was quite nice.

You don’t have to be a “9 figure customer” to get great live support from AWS. It’s 10% of your bill (declining over certain thresholds) with a minimum of $100/month.

I understand. I use AWS at work now. It's mostly curiosity about your experience than anything else.
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