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Post by pretendscholar »

cpursley wrote: post #646
MisterTea wrote: post #638

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> In the description I put "fun times". I recently started using Venmo to pay a few people and the things I have wrote are awful. Recent examples include: "Human organ trafficking" "Lunch and murder for hire", "sack of shrunken heads" and so on. Let them call me.

I put "Crimea" in a venmo transfer to my own wife and they will no longer allow me to transfer funds to her.

For some real fun start quoting koranic poetry and start listing random sites in yemen and pakistan.

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Post by Jnr »

Since I tend to read ToS and other agreements prior to signing, I was quite surprised to see a similar restriction for Revolut.

In their case it is actually phrased in a way that makes it seem like you are not even allowed to pay for pornographic content with Revolut, not just receive money for it.

Not a problem for me personally but why would payment card providers make such restrictions?

It had some other weird restrictions as well.

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Post by lmm »

seanhunter wrote: post #502
lmm wrote: post #495

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Umm yes they were, even if they'd done everything right. Look at the HSBC case and tell me the bank did anything nefarious or even negligent. Nope, governments hit them both ways.

HSBC admitted negligence. The cartels liked working with HSBC so much they even had secure money boxes made that were specifically designed to fit through the hole in HSBC branch teller windows. There are tons of references online, but these are some: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-12-12/hsbc-mexi... https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jul/17/hsbc-execut... https://www.foxnews.com/world/hsbc-knowi…

First link is paywalled.

Second link: they kowtowed to Congress because it would be worse if they hadn't. Look at what they actually did: they complied with the law and advised their clients on how to comply with the law. That's their job.

Third link appears to be all about allegations in a lawsuit rather than anything that was proven.

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Post by kortilla »

baroffoos wrote: post #470
kortilla wrote: post #463

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Mining != trashing the planet. Also, given that there is literally no alternative to mining, how do your morals allow you to support mining companies by using their products?

The coal mines in Australia are totally unnecessary. Australia is one of the best countries in the world for the ability to be powered on renewable energy. Which is now cheaper than coal. Literally the only purpose for coal in Australia is political reasons now. Yes I know coal is used for the production of other materials but there is more than enough coal currently being mined for steel. We just need to stop sensel…

Cool, don’t conflate coal mining with mining and you won’t have so many issues going forward.

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Post by codexon »

keymone wrote: post #755
codexon wrote: post #748

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There is a trust chain. If there was 0 trust involved then you could pick random nodes instead of needing to find a specific path. Sure there's cryptographic trickery involved so it is harder to steal the money, but it can still happen. Large centralized lightning nodes will form and they will act like banks and be able to stop payments to arbitrary entities like Paypal, and even make the payment get stuck for days o…

No, you’re flat out wrong. There is no trust and it’s impossible to steal money. You need to find a path because path needs to have channel capacity required for your transaction, that’s why you can’t pick random nodes, not because you want to trust them. Stealing somebody’s funds from channel is just as hard as stealing bitcoin - you need to crack encryption or you need a private key. You have no idea how lightning…

Nope, you are just echoing the basic understanding of the tech that is on every bitcoin propaganda outlet.

Each node can still steal money from the node next to them by turning hostile such as not passing the secret and closing out their channel and getting time locks to expire, which is many magnitudes easier than cracking encryption or stealing a private key. The network has already been DDoSed. Now imagine the incentive to do it when it handles millions of dollars.

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Post by keymone »

codexon wrote: post #765
keymone wrote: post #755

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No, you’re flat out wrong. There is no trust and it’s impossible to steal money. You need to find a path because path needs to have channel capacity required for your transaction, that’s why you can’t pick random nodes, not because you want to trust them. Stealing somebody’s funds from channel is just as hard as stealing bitcoin - you need to crack encryption or you need a private key. You have no idea how lightning…

Nope, you are just echoing the basic understanding of the tech that is on every bitcoin propaganda outlet. Each node can still steal money from the node next to them by turning hostile such as not passing the secret and closing out their channel and getting time locks to expire, which is many magnitudes easier than cracking encryption or stealing a private key. The network has already been DDoSed. Now imagine the inc…

Not passing the secret means not spending the output in HTLC, which will then be claimed back by sender due to timeout.

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Post by yosito »

cpursley wrote: post #646
MisterTea wrote: post #638

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In the description I put "fun times". I recently started using Venmo to pay a few people and the things I have wrote are awful. Recent examples include: "Human organ trafficking" "Lunch and murder for hire", "sack of shrunken heads" and so on. Let them call me.

I put "Crimea" in a venmo transfer to my own wife and they will no longer allow me to transfer funds to her.

I'm American. I went on a trip to Cuba for a free software conference, and someone from the conference borrowed a few Cuban Pesos from me to get some food before going to the airport. Later he sent me USD on Venmo for "Cuban cash transfer" and they threatened to close his account, but he managed to convince them that he was sending me money for lunch at a Cuban restaurant in the US. Ever since then, I'm cautious about descriptions when I Venmo people money.

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Post by codexon »

keymone wrote: post #766
codexon wrote: post #765

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Nope, you are just echoing the basic understanding of the tech that is on every bitcoin propaganda outlet. Each node can still steal money from the node next to them by turning hostile such as not passing the secret and closing out their channel and getting time locks to expire, which is many magnitudes easier than cracking encryption or stealing a private key. The network has already been DDoSed. Now imagine the inc…

Not passing the secret means not spending the output in HTLC, which will then be claimed back by sender due to timeout.

You can unlock your HTLC without telling the other party the secret. You just close the channel by yourself and tell everyone else the secret and then ddosing so the other party can't redeem his HTLC before his HTLC expires.

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Post by keymone »

codexon wrote: post #768
keymone wrote: post #766

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not passing the secret means not spending the output in HTLC, which will then be claimed back by sender due to timeout.

You can unlock your HTLC without telling the other party the secret. You just close the channel by yourself and tell everyone else the secret and then ddosing so the other party can't redeem his HTLC before his HTLC expires.

> You can unlock your HTLC without telling the other party the secret. You just close the channel by yourself and tell everyone else the secret

Do you not see the contradiction in your statement? You can’t spend your htlc without revealing the secret to the other party. If your stealing procedure involves ddosing random unknown party from being able to access any internet whatsoever to lock them out of minuscule amounts lightning payments are used for - good luck with that.

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Post by DennisP »

codexon wrote: post #752
DennisP wrote: post #645

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Here's why GHOST supports shorter block times for the same security. In Bitcoin, the chosen block is the one with the most hashpower in the linear chain behind it. Abandoned forks contribute nothing to that. With GHOST, the chosen block is the one with the most hashpower descended from it, in all forks. This way all the forks contribute to a block's security. With a linear chain, propagation time is an issue. If bloc…

As far as I can tell, GHOST is only used to mitigate high hash power loss when confirmation times are lowered to 15 seconds. Orphaned blocks are very rare in Bitcoin. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/orphaned-blocks?offset=0 Even if you somehow saved all this wasted hash power, you would only maybe increase hash power by less than 1%!!! Read my comment here for more details. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2155099…

Sounds like we vehemently agree. Orphaned blocks are indeed rare in Bitcoin, because they have ten-minute block times. GHOST only helps when block times are so short that you get lots of orphaned blocks.

And that's how Ethereum gets away with 15-second blocks.

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