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Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by dchest »

simonh wrote: post #82
dchest wrote: post #22

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Apple is not as invasive as Microsoft, but macOS has this preference: https://imgur.com/a/VhQec0O "Advertising in Apple Apps: View the information used by Apple to deliver more relevant ads to you in Apple News, Stocks and the iOS App Store. Your personal data is not provided to third parties." Apparently, you will see ads in their newest apps: News and Stocks apps (and ads for other apps in App Store).

If you have oped out, as in your case and mine, the answer is none of your information will be used in this way. It's one setting, it's a complete opt out and you get prominently asked at install time. I've really not got any problem with that.

I don't want any advertising in the software I buy.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by cameronbrown »

oefrha wrote: post #36
jk3faster wrote: post #27

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If you are not heavily dependent on softwares that run exclusively on Windows, I would say user experience on any mainstream GNU/Linux distribution is far better than that of Windows(which still insists automatic update before a reboot/shutdown). Also, community support for linux is much better. Places like AskUbuntu and community forums of distributions are much better than microsoft's support forum. Try a distribut…

Linux people keep peddling this, I'd say it'll never be the year of Linux on Desktop if you keep denying you have problems. Last I tried to dual boot my Windows gaming rig to Ubuntu Desktop earlier this year, it can't even do fractional scaling on my 4K monitor, making it completely worthless. You'd think HiDPI support is pretty basic stuff in 2019. Granted Windows HiDPI is still craptastic compared to macOS, as leas…

Actually you can do this fairly easily by:

1) Learning nano/vim

2) Understanding what X window manager is and does

3) Understanding how config files work

4) Editing the appropriate config file to change DPI. Be careful not to do something wrong or you'll mess your system up

So easy my grandma could do it.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by gbl08ma »

jk3faster wrote: post #88
oefrha wrote: post #36

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Linux people keep peddling this, I'd say it'll never be the year of Linux on Desktop if you keep denying you have problems. Last I tried to dual boot my Windows gaming rig to Ubuntu Desktop earlier this year, it can't even do fractional scaling on my 4K monitor, making it completely worthless. You'd think HiDPI support is pretty basic stuff in 2019. Granted Windows HiDPI is still craptastic compared to macOS, as leas…

Of course, that's what I refer to as a windows dependent workflow, like gaming and graphics designing. And I do agree linux support for those stuff is still limited, but constantly improving(especially with Steam).

The way I see it, "desktop-dependent workflows" overlap more and more with those "Windows-dependent workflows". Nowadays, most people don't need more than a web browser, and in that sense they do just fine with a tablet or phone (where iOS and Android dominate, and GNU/Linux is not really a viable option, at least not yet), or a Chromebook (yes, it's Linux, but it's mainly just Chrome).

Most people I know with a legitimate use for a desktop also have legitimate reasons to use Windows or macOS: gaming on Windows, content creation on Windows or macOS (graphics designing, video editing, ...), and MS Office lock-in. The only exception I can think of are developers, but even then, depending on the kind of development one is doing, using Windows or macOS may be the only choice.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by Krssst »

apk-d wrote: post #54
frou_dh wrote: post #30

When a clean install of Windows 10 ""Professional"" had prominent ads for Candy Crush in the Start Menu, is when I realized MS had lost their dignity.

To solve this, they have an upgrade you can get called "Windows 10 Pro for Workstations". Costs a little over $300. Quoting the blog post on windows.com: "You will see for Windows 10 Pro for Workstations productivity and enterprise focused applications in place of consumer applications and games. This was one of the top feedback shared with us by our partners and users and we're delivering this in our next update" La…

Since Windows 7 is going to lose security updates, I have been looking at what to replace it with. My main use case being games (actual work and internet being on Debian).

What I found was that Windows Server seems to cut most of the features I do not want in Windows (Cortana, Windows Store and Microsoft accounts, OneDrive...) while still being purchasable on Amazon (although at 3-6 times the price). There are several issues (drivers and application compatibility, various settings have to be changed to match the "regular" Windows behavior), but so far I prefer it a lot to regular Windows 10.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by martius »

thejosh wrote: post #93
martius wrote: post #81

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What do they feel? What about being thankful for being a revenue stream, it allows us to work on more free (as in beer) and open source developer tools

It's almost like paying for an operating system should somehow be the payment itself.

I'm not saying that this is a good revenue model nor that I support it.

I'm saying that employees of a company probably don't antagonize the others like that.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by wcip »

Nextgrid wrote: post #98
ppfrc wrote: post #87

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Just use LTSC. No Cortana, no Store, no Edge, and obviously no Candy Crush--in fact, no Metro apps to speak which, not even the Calculator (instead you get the one from Windows 7)

How do you get a license for that? As far as I know you can't easily. You need to find a reseller and there's a minimum amount of licenses you need to buy so you can't just buy one. I don't understand why Microsoft is doing this. There's basically zero effort involved in setting up a credit card payment form that gives out product keys, and there'd be at least some demand for it.

I had to go to Ebay to obtain a license.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #69
nroets wrote: post #16

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Yes, personally I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows. But the problem is that many organizations I deal with are reinforcing Microsoft dominance by e.g. emailing me PDFs that only Acroread can open. If I want to fight these issues, I may need to resort to name dropping (Google, Apple) and other tactics.

> emailing me PDFs that only Acroread can open Please post any examples of those to the evince project as a bug report.

They're literally everywhere. I pulled this one off the top of my head:

https://www.aoc.cat/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/sol_cert_pers...

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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Post by jk3faster »

gbl08ma wrote: post #103
jk3faster wrote: post #88

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Of course, that's what I refer to as a windows dependent workflow, like gaming and graphics designing. And I do agree linux support for those stuff is still limited, but constantly improving(especially with Steam).

The way I see it, "desktop-dependent workflows" overlap more and more with those "Windows-dependent workflows". Nowadays, most people don't need more than a web browser, and in that sense they do just fine with a tablet or phone (where iOS and Android dominate, and GNU/Linux is not really a viable option, at least not yet), or a Chromebook (yes, it's Linux, but it's mainly just Chrome). Most people I know with a legi…

I'm a software developer. I mainly work web and android. That,ofcourse, I can't do it on a smartphone and my Linux distro probably does it better than Windows. Installing and configuring CLIs and other development tools are much easier on Linux. I usually just install a linux distro as dual boot to my peers rather than figuring out how to get those stuff configured right on windows. There are ofcourse things like ASP.NET that are difficult to develop on linux because Visual Studio isn't available but fortunately, I'm able to choose my stack and avoid such cases most of the time. The windows-dependent workflows doesn't mean that doing those things with Linux is impossible. An inspiring story was published here recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21504721 Where they switched from Windows/Pagemaker/Photoshop to Linux/Scribus/GIMP for the complete process of designing and publishing a commercial newspaper. For video editing, there is kdenlive, openshot and blender. GNU/Linux is definitely more than just a "web browser" OS and capable of doing most of the things that an average user does on windows.
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