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To solve this, they have an upgrade you can get called "Windows 10 Pro for Workstations". Costs a little over $300. Quoting the blog post on windows.com: "You will see for Windows 10 Pro for Workstations productivity and enterprise focused applications in place of consumer applications and games. This was one of the top feedback shared with us by our partners and users and we're delivering this in our next update" La…
I wonder what engineers working on vscode and wsl feel when they run into people working on OS monetization in the company restaurant... What do you need to say in your interview to be assigned to the latter team?
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Chromebooks have the same problem; they’re backed by an advertising & stalking company - the laptop is just the carrot on the stick; the main objective is to gather data and waste your time with ads. The only alternative is Apple; they’re not perfect and have done some scummy things (see the right to repair, etc) but their whole marketing has been based around privacy and I can’t see them screwing that up as it’s pre…
Apple is not as invasive as Microsoft, but macOS has this preference: https://imgur.com/a/VhQec0O "Advertising in Apple Apps: View the information used by Apple to deliver more relevant ads to you in Apple News, Stocks and the iOS App Store. Your personal data is not provided to third parties." Apparently, you will see ads in their newest apps: News and Stocks apps (and ads for other apps in App Store).
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#83> And, Apple has lit this torch. Too bad this ends on this line. So you recommend trusting another corporation over Microsoft to be virtuous over the long term? The only OS you can truly control is well known, and it's Linux.
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#84A little bit irrelevant to the article: Unpopular opinion but, is opt-outtable telemetry that bad? Of course using tracked behaviors for add targeting is bad (which is why my opinion is irrelevant to the article) but using telemetry to do AB-tests, UX-tests, finding bugs, etc... what’s really bad about it? Every comment about telemetry in HN reads something like ‘Telemetry with opt-out is bad, so GitLab is bad, VSCod…
In its current incarnation, yes.
From what I've seen, telemetry has simply replaced quality assurance and proper design, and I don't like it.
It's hard to put it into words, exactly, but I'm old enough now to realise that using primarily statistics to drive high-level decisions inevitably leads to a general crapification of everything. It naturally leads to dark patterns, to gamification, to making things addictive... sorry... "engaging". It sneaks in prejudices, and ossifies the status quo. Worst of all, it tends to drag everything down to the lowest common denominator, to the left side of the bell curve. Mass appeal is appeal to the average and below-average person.
This type of viewer-feedback design is why every Hollywood movie is now so formulaic. Must have orange-blue contrast poster. Must have a love story. Must have uplifting moment. Must have plucky ethnic characters. It has become revolting slop for the masses to consume in bulk.
Software design is no different. I want quality, I want inspired software that is cohesive, fit for purpose, and will teach me something. Instead it is being purposefully lowered to the level of the average, computer-illiterate person in order to be more "accessible".
As a random example, I was infuriated when Microsoft announced that they're deprecating the Windows 7 version of the backup tool from a future Windows 10 release because their telemetry shows that most home users don't use it much.
Who. Gives. A. Fuck. what some grandma does or doesn't do with their worthless PC and its virus-riddled hard drive with no valuable data on it?
Do you? I don't. Microsoft shouldn't.
But oh no, their telemetry says Grandpa and Grandma don't use VHDX-based image backup enough, so it's go to go.
I use it regularly because it can back create disk-image backups of a running machine at a button press. It reads the source disk linearly block-by-block, and hence I can use it to back up -- or restore -- the 450 GB of tiny source code files on my work laptop in just 15 minutes! If my laptop dies, I can just attach the backup disk to another computer with Hyper-V and directly boot the latest image file. No need to even restore.
This is amazing engineering! It reuses the built-in Volume Shadow Service (VSS) engine to take the backup, so it's practically free code for Microsoft, but... nope. Sorry. The "people" have spoken. Less than 0.1% of the user base clicked this icon in the last 12 months, so clearly I'm wrong and the masses are right.
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#85> And, Apple has lit this torch. Too bad this ends on this line. So you recommend trusting another corporation over Microsoft to be virtuous over the long term? The only OS you can truly control is well known, and it's Linux.
First Apple has significantly raised the profile of privacy concerns. Their resistance to illegal demands to compromise customer privacy has been widely reported, and their advertising on this issue is a constant reminder to consumers.
Apple has also showed that it is not inevitable that big corporations must sell out customer privacy in order to succeed. Without Apple the narrative is that Google, facebook, etc have no choice, because this is just the way the modern world is and freemium is too powerful to resist. No it isn't, the stance Apple has taken and their success proves this.
Now Apple aren't immune to compromise, their folding to Chinese government demands for access to user data in China shows that they aren't invulnerable. If laws are passed that demand they surrender user data, they have no choice but to comply. However their persistent messaging on this is a helpful reminder to voters in the free world to care about this issue.
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> What is the alternative for average consumers ? Chrome books ? GNU/Linux! Any mainstream beginner friendly GNU/Linux distribution like Linux Mint or Ubuntu will be descent enough for average consumers. Unless you are heavily dependent on Adobe softwares(even then, you can consider dual boot), they are now much more elegant than windows. Getting quality support from forums is actually much easier with GNU/Linux. Las…
As much as I love all that Linux offers and working with it, the culture isn't there for Linux to be mainstream, and it's not even about feature parity or user-friendliness anymore. It's that the minimum standard offered by Microsoft, Google, and Apple is quite good and many of the annoyances that folks who do have a preference on OSes and such are not bothersome in the least bit to your average user. The problem wit…
I've noticed that on Windows as soon as Chrome appeared: they implemented a lot of malware-like concepts for the installation and updates even then. It never seemed right to me. And I still avoid Chrome as much as I can.
> the question just becomes "why would any of the mythical 'average consumer' even want to consider Linux in the first place?" As depressing as this may sound (and defeatist), as long as it gets them to Facebook and Youtube (and Instagram/whatever other social media they want), why would they care what does it and/or what that OS is doing?
My own issues: as much as I like Linux for programming, whenever I try to use Linux "just" to play videos on some non-gaming machine (and I've never bought gaming-only computers, and I'm sure an "average" user doesn't too), I still see significant problems compared with using Windows for the same task on the same machine. For various reasons it seems this joke still holds, even when removing "flash":
And my experience was even that those windowing environments promoted as "less demanding" aren't showing the videos better: they re maybe less demanding in some other aspects... but the videos which play smoothly on cheaper hardware is still a goal that is somehow hard to reach. My experience is similar to those I've had with music playing on Linuxes some decades ago, where every peace of the setup then worked against me simply being able to play (yes I've even tried modifying and rebuilding the drivers at these times...)
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#87When a clean install of Windows 10 ""Professional"" had prominent ads for Candy Crush in the Start Menu, is when I realized MS had lost their dignity.
To solve this, they have an upgrade you can get called "Windows 10 Pro for Workstations". Costs a little over $300. Quoting the blog post on windows.com: "You will see for Windows 10 Pro for Workstations productivity and enterprise focused applications in place of consumer applications and games. This was one of the top feedback shared with us by our partners and users and we're delivering this in our next update" La…
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If you are not heavily dependent on softwares that run exclusively on Windows, I would say user experience on any mainstream GNU/Linux distribution is far better than that of Windows(which still insists automatic update before a reboot/shutdown). Also, community support for linux is much better. Places like AskUbuntu and community forums of distributions are much better than microsoft's support forum. Try a distribut…
Linux people keep peddling this, I'd say it'll never be the year of Linux on Desktop if you keep denying you have problems. Last I tried to dual boot my Windows gaming rig to Ubuntu Desktop earlier this year, it can't even do fractional scaling on my 4K monitor, making it completely worthless. You'd think HiDPI support is pretty basic stuff in 2019. Granted Windows HiDPI is still craptastic compared to macOS, as leas…
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#89I have been seeing this MS vs other debates since decades. Why Linux has not been able to come up with a consumer OS. Why Windows or MAC only rule in consumer OS space?
If you are not heavily dependent on softwares that run exclusively on Windows, I would say user experience on any mainstream GNU/Linux distribution is far better than that of Windows(which still insists automatic update before a reboot/shutdown). Also, community support for linux is much better. Places like AskUbuntu and community forums of distributions are much better than microsoft's support forum. Try a distribut…
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
To solve this, they have an upgrade you can get called "Windows 10 Pro for Workstations". Costs a little over $300. Quoting the blog post on windows.com: "You will see for Windows 10 Pro for Workstations productivity and enterprise focused applications in place of consumer applications and games. This was one of the top feedback shared with us by our partners and users and we're delivering this in our next update" La…
Just use LTSC. No Cortana, no Store, no Edge, and obviously no Candy Crush--in fact, no Metro apps to speak which, not even the Calculator (instead you get the one from Windows 7)