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Post by atomi »

Daishiman wrote: post #149
aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

Bitcoin isn't criticized for this being an invalid use case, because it's totally valid. It's criticized because it's useless for this use case, people involved in this scene in practice don't care about it to any serious degree beyond it being a talking point, and because anything for legally working around financial deplatforming still needs strong interfacing with the rest of the system as well as compliance with…

I don't think there will ever be one coin that will solve everyone's problem. As attested to by the number of new crypto currencies attempting to correct every perceived issue with more popular crypto currencies.

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Post by 1337biz »

aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

To be honest I appreciate PayPal doing this. The more we see prominent cases of deplatforming, the more people are going to take it as a serious problem. One can always hide behind some pr bullshit when it comes to political free speech and so on. But porn it is finally something enough people care about to take it seriously.

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Post by stale2002 »

lvturner wrote: post #235
stale2002 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My bank isn't deplatforming me, when I transfer money from coinbase, though. So this is already a solved issue. They aren't deplatforming me right now!

What if they deplatform coinbase due to AML risk... Or some other reason?

Coinbase isn't currently being deplatformed, though.

That is a hypothetical situation which seems to me like it would be pretty unlikely.

Banks aren't talking about deplatforming coinbase, for whatever reason, therefore it is useful.

The whole "what if the government/banks banned Bitcoin!?" Is a pretty silly hypothetical, to me, because if you look at what these groups are actually doing, you will see that they aren't doing this and aren't really trying to do so!

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Post by rationalfaith »

jascii wrote: post #226
rationalfaith wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yourbrainonporn.com has not only research but a vast population of ex-porn users. If you claim any counter argument on its effect after that, then I question one's honesty to seek the truth.

Sure, I bite: The site you refer to is an book advert and most of its premises have been disproven in peer reviewed research.

I see pro-porn lobby is strong here. For other readers, website is backed up by reddit.com/r/nofap which has 500k+ users who are quitting or quit porn. Countless testimonies.

Same website has 75+ peer reviewed research papers: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articl...

You may be paid to lobby for porn, but it only takes truth to undo your lies.

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Post by bcheung »

aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

I've had several friends in the adult industry have their checking accounts closed at a several major banks as well. Traditional banking should definitely not be discriminating against fully legal activities.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

basch wrote: post #147
aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

wheres the disruptive fintech for these underbanked? Sounds like a gold mine for the right marketing team.

There are other payment platforms that still work here. The problem with most of these alternative platforms is their fraud rates are absolutely through the roof. For example, Green Dot and NetSpend are companies that provide pre-paid, secured credit cards online, and as someone who worked at a consumer fintech company, one of these cards coming through automatically raised the fraud score because we had so many issues with payments from these cards.

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Post by emidln »

jimnotgym wrote: post #10

A contributor once wrote on hn about the huge market for a porn friendly payment system. Key feature, must not look suspicious on credit card bill...

These have existed for quite awhile. CCBill was the big player around 10 years ago. They take a slightly larger cut for the service relative to something like a Braintree or a Paypal.
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