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Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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post #52

That's how you make people switch to Firefox, Brave, Opera, etc.

The last two are chromium-based and thus will likely follow chrome's extension system too.

Both of them have already said they will not implement these changes in their Chromium branches.

Unfortunately for Google, Chrome is open source, and Google will no longer be the dominant Chromium branch if they keep making mistakes like this.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#112
The biggest advertising company in history tries to kill blocking advertisements in their browser? How am I not surprised.

I bet this move is also to kill the workings of extensions like DecentralEyes and others that try to protect users from being tracked. The whole changing of the API into a "sure we'll block that URL for ya, sometimes maybe" model reeks of increasing user tracking. They'll work out the kinks to let AdBlockers function again. But they'll have their tracking back.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#114
post #97

Wow, the amount of negativity here is awful. I looks like most commenters have not even read the article... First of all, the HN title is not the title of the article. HN mods, please change it to reflect the actual title of the article. Second, to me this does not seem as some attempt by Google to actively block Adblocker extensions. They are proposing a change to the API (Manifest) to no longer allow manipulation o…

Thank you for giving an insight from the other side.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#115
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google captcha makes some sites almost unusable on firefox if you dare to resist fingerprinting for full traceability. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20147015

Can you surpass it by faking user-agent and pretend to be Chrome?

It is not about Chrome vs Firefox. It is about how much information they can get about you.

The idea behind the "I am not a robot" captcha is that if you act like a human, then you don't need to be shown pictures for further confirmation. The more you allow tracking, the more info they have to figure it out.

A big one is being logged in to your Google account. Having access to all your history really helps. And because Chrome heavily encourage you to setup a Google account, Chrome users are more likely to be logged in than Firefox (or other) users.

Spoofing your user-agent is likely to be worse. If you have a Chrome user-agent but your browser don't act like Chrome, that's a big red flag. Bots often spoof their user agents.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#116

Back in the IE 6 days I was in charge of fixing my families computers, and my family's friends computers. I was dealing with a few things a week, some requiring a full re-install. This was back in the early 2000's. Eventually I snapped and started charging hourly unless people switched to Gmail and Firefox. I started getting a lot less calls since Gmail was pretty good about filtering out malicious attachments and IE…

I did it like this

Install FF

Set it as default

Change path on desktop shortcut for "Internet" to FF

And ofc do not forget to say that is new IE version

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#117

I wonder how much of this is actually about Adblockers... vs Googlers just wanting to make some performance numbers go up in aggregate to make their own internal company stats better. Cos sure as hell no user is waiting for this.

> Cos sure as hell no user is waiting for this. Why do you assume Google implements features that users want? They implement features that their clients want: the ones paying for ads.

As someone who's used digital advertising in the past I wouldn't really care about forcing my content upon all customers. It's a self selected opt-out for someone who won't ever click anyway.

The real problem is news websites don't show restraint and shovel (so, many) ads to customers, making impressions go up and clicks go down. IMO ads won't go away and adblockers won't kill them completely as too many market forces (privacy, performance, revenue) is making the industry adapt.

Disclaimer: Personal opinion, Googler, not in ads or Chrome.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#118
post #97

Wow, the amount of negativity here is awful. I looks like most commenters have not even read the article... First of all, the HN title is not the title of the article. HN mods, please change it to reflect the actual title of the article. Second, to me this does not seem as some attempt by Google to actively block Adblocker extensions. They are proposing a change to the API (Manifest) to no longer allow manipulation o…

Mods, can we have this title changed to match the article? It’s not accurate, as Manifest v3 does not “kill” adblockers. (Whether it cripples them or not is still subjective and does not belong in the title.)

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

#119

Like so many others on this thread, this is my push to go entirely back onto Firefox. I'll keep Chrome for the diminishing number of sites that don't like Firefox.

You can use Brave as your Chromium-based browser. It blocks ads natively, and I've not yet run into a site that required Chrome that didn't work on Brave.

How sure are we that Brave will not break also with these new changes? And also, how sure are we that Chromium isn't secretly tracking users already? I don't have time to read the source, and don't trust that many people that say it's all a-okay.
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